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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/01/29/us/plane-crash-washington-dc?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare#staffing-was-not-normal-at-airport-tower-according-to-a-preliminary-faa-report

Staffing was short last night at DCA

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Not sure that is relevant.  ATC saw both planes and communicated with them- no whether the right words were said, I don’t know, but present staff attempted to intervene.  [/quote]

Horrific

I wonder if the plane could have pulled up and aborted the landing approach at any point.

Terrible. [/quote]

The helicopter could have.[/quote]

But not the plane. Which is why ATC simply confirms that the helicopter has visual on the plane and directs it to fly behind. That is not a particularly challenging maneuver for a BH whereas trying to change the course of an airplane at 400ft, descending to a runway, would take heroic effort and may not be successful.

[b]Something went wrong with the helicopter. Why was it flying at 400ft when 200 is standard? Why had it crossed into the middle of the river when standard flight path would keep it on the east bank at least until it had passed DCA airspace? Why do they confirm visual on the plane but maintain path? Why don't they turn East when directed to pass behind the landing plane?
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Nothing ATC or the plane does here is particularly notable. Yes it's bad ATC was short-staffed and that one controller had to handle plane and helicopter traffic. But he does so. The plane is doing a standard landing, no deviations. But the helicopter is deviating from the norm in several ways. It raises questions about what was happening in the aircraft.

Wonder if we'll ever get the data from the helicopter black box. I hope so, but am not counting on it.[/quote]

None of this makes sense to me either. Can we keep the discussion to the incident and not to the speculative race/gender of the various pilots please? Pilot error is pilot error. [/quote]

Happy to let it go.  But our country won’t forget the former transportation secretary obsessed over the race of transportation workers for FOUR YEARS.

He would not let it go.[/quote]

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