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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think the new methodology removing class rank raises a legit issue about the ranking removing too many academic-focused factors, but by the same token, the class size and alumni engagement factors were too easily gamed by a lot of private schools and artificially propped them up.

Ultimately, I think the new rankings overall are better in clarifying, “Which schools are actually worth paying $90,000 per year over our in-state flagship?” The rankings still indicate that there’s a clear difference by going to an Ivy or its other peers in the top 20-ish, but maybe people will be dissuaded from thinking that paying a lot extra for, say, Tufts or Wake Forest is going to result in materially different outcomes compared to many of the major public flagships.[/quote]

I disagree, if you want small class sizes, more professors with phds, and more money spent per student, you are going to get that at Wake or Tufts over Rutgers.

If you care more about social mobility, pick Rutgers.[/quote]

That’s fine if you want those things, but those are luxuries. If Rutgers is enrolling essentially the same academic caliber of students as Wake or Tufts while also providing greater social mobility and not costing $90,000 per year, then that’s honestly more valuable information to the vast majority of people (even relatively affluent people in the upper middle class). Once again, the true academic elite (Ivy League and their peers) largely didn’t go down in these rankings. The next tier of private schools were getting an artificial boost based in the luxury good items that you mentioned compared to public schools with students with just as good or better academic qualifications and often higher-ranked programs in a lot of areas like engineering and business.[/quote]
You're smoking Crack if you think Rutgers has the sane caliber students as Tufts. [/quote]
Top to bottom?  Probably not.  But Rutgers has nearly 6x the number of kids as Tufts and there are many very bright students in NJ who cannot afford a school like Tufts and wind up at Rutgers.  So it is entirely possible that the top 6-7000 students at Rutgers are of the caliber of the Tufts kids.  My kid is applying to both and, in the somewhat unlikely scenario that she gets into both, I am hard-pressed to say which she'll choose (we're in-state for Rutgers and know a bunch of kids there and a handful at Tufts).[/quote]

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