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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Brock is undoubtedly a douchebag, but 6 months of jail and spending the rest of your life as a registered sex offender seems like a reasonable punishment for a man who fingered a passed out drunk girl (and even then we don't know for certain that she was passed out at that moment he did it) [/quote]

People are outraged at the lenient 6 month sentence.  The probation officer took into account the notorieity of the case, that Turner's name is forever besmirched, and the llifetime sentence of the sex offender registry when advising the jail time.

I think the sex offender registry is an awful creation, myself.  A lifetime sentence that limits where a person can live, severely limits what job a person can have, and does not distinguish between one sex offense and another.  Does the punishment fit the crime?  I don't think so.  a person is supposed toserve their sentence, pay their debt to society, and then move on.  If a person is too dangerous to be out in society, then either give them a lifetimeprison sentence, kill them, or castrate and release them.

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I actually do not consider 6 months to be a lenient sentence for someone who fingered a woman In a situation where it can't be proved as to whether she gave her consent. And fwiw, I actually DO believe she was passed out and therefore couldn't give consent, but speculation isn't enough  [/quote]

I also want to add that I actually think he would have raped her (with his penis) if the men on the bike hadn't come along. But legally you can't just go on gut feelings, you have to go by what is known and what is known is that she doesn't remember the events of the evening and eventually passed out, he fingered her at some point, but it can't be determined if it was prior to her passing out, and witnesses saw him dry hump her with his pants on while she was apparently passed out. Based on what can actually be determined six months in jail and a lifetime branded as a sex offender does not seem lenient to me. [/quote]

I think that they were fooling around and he had hoped to have sex with her - that was his intent.  Then she passed out.  He was aroused and was getting himself off by dry humping her.  I[b] don't think he had any intentions of raping her unconscious body. [/b] He wouldn't have wasted time dry humping her if he was going to rape her.  But in CA if the victim doesn't remember what happened....it is assault.  Ironically, if she had remained conscious they probably would have had sex....which could have gotten him a rape charge because she blacked out and didn't remember what happened.  Thus the intent to rape...

It was a mess of a night alright.[/quote]

1) Dry  humping her body is a sexual battery/sexual assault.

2)  The jury heard all the evidence and convicted him of sexual assault with intent to rape.   Your opinion doesn't matter. They heard all of the evidence. You haven't. You are wrong.[/quote]

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