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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I just heard the pilot of the helicopter was a woman. Trump, Hegseth and MAGA are getting ready to ramp up their “I Told You So” tour.[/quote]

You heard from Fox or maybe one of the MAGA nuts?

It is clearly a male voice from the radio.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r90Xw3tQC0I[/quote]

Man, the male helo pilot (or copilot) said at both ATC warnings that yes, they have visual separation and then went and crashed into the underside of the jet.

W T F. [/quote]

They could have been watch another plane. It is in the video. Though he could have stopped. Helicopter can hover.[/quote]

No. Look at the radar. [b]If the helicopter pilot was looking at another plane, he was staring out the side window of the helicopter.[/b]

The plane he crashed into is directly in front of him. Even accounting for the fact the plane is descending in altitude and the dark, there is no plausible way the helicopter pilot though they were talking about one of the other planes. There was only one other plane in the vicinity and it's to the side and behind the helicopter.

Also the ATC identifies the aircraft by call sign, which presumably should have shown up on helicopter radar as well.[/quote]

Dude, they have navigational tools and fly off those most of all! They know an approaching aircraft’s altitude, speed, angle.

If pilot was “looking out since wrong side window” at a different jet farther away,  that’s malpractice, malfeasance, negligence and pure idiocy.

They look at both the navs and outside visuals.

Guess which one is most accurate? To the point that in a white out or black out situation they only use it? The Navs! [/quote]

Something dumb happened here.

And if it’s a cascade of substandard DEI admittances and promotions, so be it.

We need to know. [/quote]

If it turns out she was piloting, it was the man who radioed they saw the plane. So, it can't entirely be her fault. I mean if you're headed straight for a plane, aren't the other two people on board going to start shouting? If this is going to be some DEI thing, I think we have to be honest that likely all of them are at fault, and perhaps whoever ordered them to be flying then. [/quote]

This is going to turn into a DEI thing but not bc of a female pilot or any individual person. ATC is understaffed largely bc of Obama-era policy efforts to diversify all branches of gov't--and ATC historically has been the least diverse. There's been a class-action lawsuit going on since '14 I think b/c of a pretty shameful biographical pass/fail questionaire that was put into place. The DoT is going to lose this case and hopefully it gets wrapped up soon. This is a good (though not short) summary and looking at it again I just noticed that it was published exactly one year before yesterday's crash.

https://www.tracingwoodgrains.com/p/the-faas-hiring-scandal-a-quick-overview

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4542755/brigida-v-united-states-department-of-transportation/?page=1[/quote]

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