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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Atheists spending their day, day after day, as fringe deniers. Every historian and scholar in the western world accepts Jesus historically. Anyone who doesn’t is a fringe denier and conspiracy theorist. [/quote]

No one denied.  :roll: [/quote]

You opened up the probability of denial by saying there was a 1-49% chance Jesus didn’t exist. Enough of the dumb semantic games. [/quote]

No one said there was a 49% chance. I can see what the PP got frustrated with the blatant lying. Isn’t that a sin or something? Thou shall not troll?

“Most likely” exists is not denying. That *is* the most likely scenario. [b]We just don’t have definitive evidence that he lived[/b]. We only have people who heard about him from other people and then some people wrote it down based on what they heard. 
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^ I said that above. The evidence is circumstantial, but the weight of it is pretty persuasive.

And here’s where you’re out of step with thousands of scholars, including the three above, who are convinced he definitely lived.[/quote]

They think the circumstantial evidence is compelling. That doesn’t make it definitive. 
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[b]Cite, please. Link to someone who calls the evidence “compelling but not definitive.”[/b][/quote][/quote]

I said that above, a couple of days ago. The evidence is circumstantial, but it's pretty persuasive nonetheless.[/quote]

ok, join the holocaust deniers, flat earthers, and climate change deniers. That’s who you are with such beliefs. Do you feel good about being in such company?[/quote]

It takes a real Dr. Goebbels to respond to a post saying the evidence is persuasive and accuse them of being a denier. That’s a flat out lie. you’re a dishonest person, you should be ashamed, and the comparison is entirely appropriate.[/quote]

Mark Allen Powell (NT professor at Trinity Lutheran, a founding editor of the Journal for the Study of the Historical Jesus): “A hundred and fifty years ago a fairly well respected scholar named Bruno Bauer maintained that the historical Jesus never existed. Anyone who says that today – in the academic world at least – gets grouped with the skinheads who say there was no Holocaust and the scientific holdouts who want to believe the world is flat.” [Jesus as a Figure in History (Westminster, 1998), 168.]

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Why don’t you go start a thread about deniers? Off topic here. 
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In short, the abundance of historical texts converts the real existence of Jesus into what McCane defines as a “broad and deep consensus among scholars,” regardless of their religious beliefs. “I do not know, nor have I heard of, any trained historian or archaeologist who has doubts about his existence,” he adds. With the weight of all this evidence, for Meyers “those who deny the existence of Jesus are like the deniers of climate change.”

https://www.bbvaopenmind.com/en/science/scientific...ist-the-evidence-says-yes/amp/[/quote]

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