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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So Senator Johnson confirms Sonderland told the quid pro quo and people are STILL denying it, as if it detracts at all from the impeachable action, which Trump has not only admitted, but is basically defying any punishment for.

He is assuming the GOP won't remove him from office.

Burr, Sasse, Romney and now Johnson. That is four on the road to 30.[/quote]

Johnson has confirmed that Sondland told him (Johnson) that the military aid was contingent on Zelensky investigating Biden.  But he didn't say that he (Johnson) thinks that Trump should not do that or that he thinks it's a serious violation of his oath of office.  Johnson also said he thinks it's fine for Trump to ask China to investigate Biden.[/quote]

Nor did Sondland ever say that Trump told Sondland it was a quid pro quo.  The opposite is true.   These bureaucratic functionaries seem to frequently misrepresent their superiors' positions in an effort to get leverage in a negotiation.   "Give me what I want because unless you do, you won't get what you want, and that's coming straight from the top."  Except it wasn't.[/quote]

That is ridiculous. The real diplomats were not demanding the investigations. They knew the investigations were bullshit. That demand was coming from Trump through Pompeo, Giuliani, and Sondland. Taylor and Volker and the Ukrainians only went along with the coerced quid because Ukraine badly needed the quo that Trump was holding up.

The only person who questioned whether there was a quid pro quo was Taylor, because he was afraid that Trump would renege on the quo once he got the quid.

"The nightmare is they give the interview and don't get the security assistance. The Russians love it. (And I quit.)"[/quote]

You just proved there wasn't a quid pro quo.  Taylor was fearful there was not a quid pro quo.  It was Taylor who promised the Ukrainians if they played ball they would get the arms, but he knew that was false, and was trying to cover his rear end by fabricating a quid pro quo in his communication to Sondland, which Sondland refuted.  [/quote]

You cannot possibly be that dumb. Trump, Giuliani, Pompeo, Barr, and Sondland are the extortion co-conspirators who wanted the investigations and made them the condition for releasing the military assistance and a Trump-Zelensky White House meeting. No one else cared about the investigations - not Taylor, not Volker, not the Ukrainians. Taylor wanted Ukraine to get the military assistance that we had promised them without the extortion but Trump held it back while his co-conspirators executed the criminal conspiracy. [/quote]

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