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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I agree this case has gotten boring but there is some interesting stuff coming out as a lot of discovery docs are being unsealed. For instance, this is a timeline Jamey Heath and Wayfarer put together at the end of July 2024, detailing all the issues through pre-production, production, and post-production. I found it interesting to skim and there are some things that were definitely new to me, like the timeline on when Colleen Hoover shifted to Blake's side when the film was in the screening process, and the involvement of Brendan Sklenar in that process (in fact the timeline says that Colleen and Blake had never met prior to Colleen attending a screening of Blake's cut of the film at Book Bonanza, which I was pretty surprised to learn).

I also was interested to see the audience scores from all the screenings, which tell a more nuanced story than what I'd previously understood. The movie was screened four times, but it appears three different versions were screened. These were the results:

#1, Baldoni's cut: 76% 
#2, Baldoni's cut: 86%
#3, Blake's cut: 83%
#4, Blake's second cut, which Wayfare says incorporated "most" of what they had wanted anyway: 81%

I actually work with surveys for a living and would argue that this data is fairly useless because it was 4 different audiences and there's going to be a movement in those numbers no matter what, even if you screened the exact same cut four times. But it's notable that Baldoni's cut received both the lowest and highest audience rating, and that Blake's original cut scored higher than the Final Cut which apparently incorporated more of what Baldoni wanted in it.

If I had to draw conclusions based on that, I would suggest that either cut was going to play fairly well with audiences, but that Baldoni's original cut was potentially more divisive because it got that outlier 76% in the initial screening. I'd be inclined to go with either Blake's original cut or the compromise cut from screening #4 (which is what was released) out of concern that Baldoni's cut might be tun off some viewers, even though it also scored reasonably well with an average score of 81%.

Anyway, here's the timeline, it's got a bunch of other stuff in there in case anyone else wants to go hunting for something to talk about: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.874.17.pdf[/quote]

Thanks - I appreciate seeing something on here about the actual lawsuit. Annoyed the MSJ exhibits aren't going to be unsealed until around Christmas, ugh.

Random thoughts on this...

What do we make of "Taylor Swift and Hugh Jackman were present in the apartment" (but not saying the room!) when Ryan yelled at Justin. I'm sure it's a huge apartment, but it sounded like this meeting went on for quite a while, and they presumably came to visit Ryan and Blake so it's so odd to think they were at the apartment just chilling in another room while all this was going on, and I wonder if they heard the yelling, but again, big apartment I'm sure. I do not get the impression Swift was actively involved in anything, and perhaps was unaware she was being used as an intimidation talisman of sorts, but maybe she's not that naive.

On 5/11/23 what does that mean that Justin recorded rehearsal with Jenny? I guess that means off-set, like a table read? And something that is not commonly done since they thought it was noteworthy for the timeline? And this is a week before she got upset that he said she looked sexy in the leather pants, so he wasn't recording because of that.

On 6/7 or 6/8/23, "Alex and Justin had their thing on set" and argue about a shot. What was this about, do we know? I only just figured out Alek Saks is a girl.

It's so interesting when we learn how much we really don't know yet.[/quote]

I think the Jenny Slate thing is related to something that shows up in the 17 point list. Something like "no more recording people without their consent." The implication is that Justin recorded rehearsal without letting Jenny know he was doing it, and that's what she objected to.

Regarding Alex Saks, she is a producer from Sony who worked on the movie. What the document says is "Alex and Justin had their thing on set. Alex insisted that JB already had the shot and did not need to do another take. JB sternly responded that 'I will decide.' Alex ended up leaving shortly thereafter." The timeline also mentions that they were dealing with cost overruns and delays by this point in filming (actually still pretty early on, so it's a big problem) so it's unsurprising that Sony, which had a major financial interest in the movie, would be concerned about additional costs that might be incurred from extending a shoot for another take. Perhaps it was going to result in overtime for crew or push back the turnaround time of actors (SAG actors are required to have a certain number of hours off between days of shooting, so if filming runs late, it can cause delays in the morning because the actors are not supposed to start until their turnaround time has passed). But it's interesting that the exchange was noted and problematic that involved a female producer.

I am personally not convinced the timeline is correct about Swift and Jackman being present for that meeting where Reynolds yelled at Baldoni about the trainer/weight issue. I think potentially the timeline is conflating two meetings (this one and the script meeting where Swift told Baldoni she liked Blake's rewrite, I think Jackman showed up towards the end of that meeting as well, it wasn't contentious). It sounds like the timeline was composed largely by Jamey Heath, so it makes sense that he might have confused these two incidents since he was not present for either and would have heard about them second hand from Baldoni. The script meeting is not mentioned in the timeline so I'm guessing Heath or whoever drafted the document just confused them.[/quote]

Right, they confused them, but you, an internet random, know what’s what.[/quote]

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