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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My other take away is the concern over FLES. FLES is a waste of time and money. The students don’t learn anything in the class.Tank the program and save money. Add more language immersion programs if you really want to introduce more kids to a language early on. There are wait lists for Spanish, French, and German so there is demand. But FLES is not nearly enough to introduce kids to a language. [/quote]

Agreed. My kid was in one of those in her old FCPS ES and she didn't learn much of anything. It was a specials class she did once a week. You can't learn a foreign language in a 40-minute lesson every seven days. We moved to a different ES without the foreign language option and didn't miss it at all. That many special ed kids having to move or facing disruptions is a much more serious issue, IMHO.[/quote]

That is a somewhat useless program.  "Nice to have,"  I guess.

I think McElveen pushed this program the last time he was on the School Board.

I was a DOD teacher overseas.  Elementary kids had the Host Nation teacher twice a week.  Culture/Language.  If the kids lived on the economy (in the local country setting) they learned the language from their host nation playmates.  The kids who lived in military housing--never learned it unless Mom happened to be a native speaker.
It made good sense to have this program there since the kids were livng in the country--but they still did not learn the language.  It makes no sense here.[/quote]

In most foreign countries, kids have English instruction every day starting at an early age (in Germany, it was 2nd or 3rd grade). Every. day. That's the only way to learn. FLES is useless. They cover the same five things every year. My kids came away from ES knowing how to say five things in Spanish. They learned more from Spanish-speaking classmates than from the teacher.[/quote]

+1
FLES is the biggest waste of time.  My kids had it for one hour a week.  They would come home with worksheets they had no idea how to read.  I always thought, if they would eliminate this wasted hour, they'd have more time for the actual core subjects.  It's one of those things they do because it "sounds" good.  The reality is, no one is learning a foreign language this way.[/quote]

+1 Some of the best comments of the day here.[/quote]

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