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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Oh and the word “genocide” was coined in order to describe what happened in the Holocaust.

Although the act existed before that, the word did not.[/quote]

Honestly this whole discussion about genocide is a trick to turn our attention away from the DEATH and DESTRUCTION Israel is inflicting.

Have any of you been to the Bekaa valley?  I (a Jew!) travelled there in 2003.  I took public transportation everywhere (they had a great mini bus system) .  No one was anything but lovely to me.  The land was beautiful.  The antiquities plentiful.  The food amazing.

My friend’s in laws live there. Why?   They are not Hezbollah.  But the Lebanese banking system froze assets in the banks a year or so ago and they no longer have access to a lifetime of saving for retirement.  So they sold their apartment in Beirut and bought a cheaper place in the countryside. Their new town is getting bombed.  They are well educated, non extremists.

Israel is lying when they say they are targeting Hezbollah only.

Israel is lying when they said they are attacking as defense.

Israel has been evacuating residents from the north since June.  The Lebanese have been predicting war since.

The attack is premeditated murder.

Of course Hamas committed atrocities.  Of course Hezbollah should not fire into Israel.  But what Israel is doing to Gaza and Lebanon is horrible.  And why we call that out is that our tax dollars are funding it.  
 
Arabs are not the enemy.  
Persians are not the enemy. 
Muslims are not the enemy.  
Extremist are the enemy and they reside in Israel too.  [/quote]

I, also Jewish, disagree.

I have close family in Jerusalem and Haifa.

[b]The problem is on 10/8/23, Hezbollah started to fire rockets and missions into Israel.[/b] The day after Hamas attacked.

[b]Israel did not bomb Gaza until 10/13 and attack on the ground until 10/27.[/b]

So why did Hezbollah shoot missiles into Israel on 10/8.

It’s because they are Terrorists.  Hezbollah control all factions of the Lebanese government.  Hezbollah is essentially Lebanon. You can’t separate them.

So after me enduring one year of misdialed from Hezbollah. Israel has every right to attack them them back and destroy Hezbollah.

The fact you are defending a terrorist group  who has killed Americans  and will cheer when many more die, is insane.
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The bolded are NOT TRUE.

Israel started bombing Gaza on 10/7, shortly after the start of the Hamas attack.

By 10/8, hundreds of Palestinians had been killed in Gaza, including many, children and women. Entire multi-story residential buildings in Gaza had been destroyed by then.

Also, Hezbollah did not fire rockets into Israel on 10/8. They fired into the area known as Shebaa Farms.

Both Syria and Lebanon consider Shebaa farms as Lebanese territory. Shebaa Farms is NOT considered Israel by almost the entire world.

In response, Israel fired into Lebanon and wounded several people. Therefore, Israel fired into Lebanon BEFORE Hezbollah fired rockets into Israel. They fired into what  almost the entire world view as occupied territory that is not a part of Israel.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-strip-suffers-deadliest-day-15-years-after-hamas-attack-2023-10-08/
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-strikes-lebanon-after-hezbollah-hits-shebaa-farms-2023-10-08/[/quote]

The situation with Shebaa Farms is more complicated than you’re making it out to be.

The U.N. certified the border. Lebanon and Syria claim its Lebanese territory, but the UN did certify the Israeli pullout. [/quote]

UN certified the withdrawal of Israel from Lebanese territory in 2000. But the UN did not state that the Shebaa Farms area is a part of Israel, and they have never stated that it is Israel. The UN views the land as Syrian; Syria and Lebanon view it as Lebanon.

I don't think anybody besides Israel and the US, view it as Israel.

Any statement that Hezbollah fired into Israel on 10/8 or that Hezbollah fired into Israel before Israel fired into Lebanon is incorrect. Because Shebaa Farms is not Israel. It is only true from the Israeli perspective. But the UN and Lebanon have a different perspective on what land is considered Israel.

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FFS, why are you even indulging this mouth breather with "Lebanon and Syria think it belongs to Syria" talk? It's NOT Israel. It's Syrian land. International law dictates that it's not Israel's land, nor will it ever be recognized.

F off already - I have no use for Hezbollah (or Hamas, or frankly Israel), but everyone with a pulse and a goddamned ounce of integrity knows that Hezbollah's goal is one thing: to fend off Israel's constant, ceaseless, endless provocations in the region. Israel is the main problem. You are part of that main problem.

The radical, extremist Zionists (REZ) here in the U.S. and in Israel (and wherever these evildoers dwell)  are the absolute worst. Call it anti-semitism, call it whatever TF you want, nobody is buying your desperate attempts to characterize criticisms of the vile REZ as criticisms of all Jewish people, including the many here in the U.S. who are disgusted with the actions and policies of Israel ... you and the rest of the REZ are your own worst enemy because you are INCAPABLE of coexisting with others. You are despicable, and more than deserving of any and all misfortune that the universe can possibly shower you with. Be gone already.[/quote]

Is that you, Zoe? Don’t you have a hobby?[/quote]

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