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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Oh America! I mean it is Florida, but still. https://www.rawstory.com/banned-books-in-florida/ member of the Flagler County, Florida school board has filed a criminal complaint over four copies of an LGBTQ book recommended for 14 to 18 year olds, claiming it violates the state's obscenity laws. "My concern is for the children of Flagler County," Jill Woolbright claims, according to the Palm Coast Observer. "This book needs to be investigated as a crime in our media center. This is pretty heavy stuff, violating our own policies. [/quote] Book banning. I don’t think you really understand the meaning of the phrase. It is impossible for a school to ban a book. Sure, it can exclude a book from its library and not make it a part of the curriculum on the grounds that a significant portion of parents believe that reading “great literature” containing descriptions of fisting and the like is not necessary to become educated. But these books are still available in the marketplace. In fact, parents are free to expose their own children to pornographic material to whatever extent they choose. But schools should not make the consumption of these materials compulsory and are not obligated to make them freely available. This is really not a complicated issue. [/quote] They know all of this. There are certain people who have kept this thread alive for years because they are so desperate for the state to provide sexual material to other people’s children. Of course they likely don’t even have children.[/quote] No, it is about free speech and exchange of ideas. Things the right was supposed to be so adamant about when wanting a nativity scene on public space.[/quote] No. It’s about sexual content. Why not put hustler in the school library if you are a free speech absolutist? And please spare us the nonsense that book banning is only coming from one side. [url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/11/03/to-kill-a-mockingbird-book-ban-removal-washington/[/url] [/quote] And you support banning the Bible in school libraries, correct? If not you are a hypocrite. [/quote] Of course. As an atheist I believe that no religion should be promoted to children in public schools. I notice that you didn’t respond to my question. Why not provide hustler to your kids in school, you support that right? Or perhaps you’re the hypocrite. [/quote] Anyone who compares Hustler to the books that Moms for “Liberty” are trying to remove from school libraries and classrooms is not arguing in good faith. And clearly also not a lover of books [/quote] DP. Parents are objecting to books that show images of sex acts in school libraries. Do you have a problem with Hustler in school libraries? Do you object to all images of sex acts in schooo libraries? What images do you think are acceptable in schools? Where is the line for you?[/quote] These parents are objecting to Hustler in school libraries? Okay, fine. I don't know who is putting Hustler in school libraries, but I doubt you will find anyone who thinks that is fine. Please share the link to the story where someone added that to a school library. Also, please tell me more about the image of sex acts in Art Spiegelman's Maus. I couldn't find such images in my edition so perhaps you are aware of an alternate, sexually explicit edition that is ending up in school libraries across the country. Because obviously, as per your post, these parents are objecting to Maus only because the edition in their school contain images of sex acts. I'd be interesting in hearing about it and await your answer.[/quote] This letter was published in the NYT in 2022, and I dug it out because I thought it was relevant to the discussion around Maus. Cultural norms matter, and assuming the worst from people you don't know is the exact opposite of espousing diversity. [i]To the Editor: Re “Tennessee Board Bans Teaching of Holocaust Novel” (news article, Jan. 29): I’m Jewish, from New York City, and I taught at a state university serving low-income Tennessee students for 25 years. So I need to set the record straight. Every Tennessee fifth grader is required to learn about the Holocaust. My university, with its minuscule fraction of Jewish students, has a Holocaust studies minor. We host an international Holocaust conference every two years. To convey the magnitude of six million lost, three decades ago teachers in Whitwell, Tenn., asked their eighth-grade class to collect that many paper clips. They ended up with 30 million, sent to the school from people around the world. These are on display in the school’s Children’s Holocaust Memorial, housed in a boxcar from Germany, which may be the most riveting testament of young people working together to vow “Never again.” People in the rural South have different cultural norms. After moving to Tennessee, I learned you don’t swear in class. But painting a state as yahoos and Holocaust deniers for rejecting cursing or nudity in one book epitomizes the very stereotype we people who study the Holocaust should always abhor.[/i] https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/12/opinion/letters/book-bans-censorship.html?searchResultPosition=4[/quote] So, what page on Maus are there images of sexual acts (the apparent reason it is being banned according to PP)? Sorry, I don't see it mentioned in that letter and that's what I was looking for. I am not finding this in my copy of the book. Thanks.[/quote]
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