Toggle navigation
Toggle navigation
Home
DCUM Forums
Nanny Forums
Events
About DCUM
Advertising
Search
Recent Topics
Hottest Topics
FAQs and Guidelines
Privacy Policy
Your current identity is: Anonymous
Login
Preview
Subject:
Forum Index
»
Religion
Reply to "If Jesus wasn’t a real historical figure, where did Christian theology come from? "
Subject:
Emoticons
More smilies
Text Color:
Default
Dark Red
Red
Orange
Brown
Yellow
Green
Olive
Cyan
Blue
Dark Blue
Violet
White
Black
Font:
Very Small
Small
Normal
Big
Giant
Close Marks
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]https://ehrmanblog.org/gospel-evidence-that-jesus-existed/ Here’s Bart: Jesus existed. In yesterday’s post, I began to show how Jesus is the best attested Palestinian Jew of the first century if we look only at external evidence. But how can you make a convincing case [that someone made up Jesus] if we’re talking about thirty or so independent sources that know there was a man Jesus? These sources are not all living in the same village someplace so they are egging each other on. They didn’t compare notes. They are independent of one another and are scattered throughout the Mediterranean. They each have heard about the man Jesus from their own sources of information, which heard about him from their own sources of information. That must mean that there were hundreds of people at the least who were talking about the man Jesus. One of them was the apostle Paul, who was talking about Jesus by at least the year 32 CE, that is, two years after the date of Jesus’ death. Paul, as I will point out, actually knew, personally, Jesus’ own brother James and his closest disciples Peter and John. That’s [by itself] more or less a death knell for the Mythicist position, as some of them admit. (Still Bart talking) Short story: we are not talking about a Bart Ehrman Jesus figure invented in the year 60. There was widespread information about Jesus from the years after his death. Otherwise, you can’t explain all the literary evidence (dozens of independent sources), some of it based on Aramaic traditions of Jesus’ homeland. [/quote] If we're taking scripture at its word, then are we drawing a line somewhere when historical evidence refutes it? Or are we just taking scripture as fact because enough people in scripture said it?[/quote] Bumping because, yeah... Are we just saying that if enough people said something, it's true? Even the antisemitic lie that the Jews killed Jesus? Because that's where this leads. [/quote] Who is “we”? Are you a scholar, even a classicist or historian? Let us know your credentials. Again, find one scholar who agrees with you and link to them. Otherwise you’re keeping company with skinhead holocaust deniers, flat-earthers and climate-change deniers. [/quote] ...What? "We" are the people arguing about this on DCUM. And yes, I was a history major, though I didn't go into academia as a field. I'm just pointing out the flawed logic of using "lots of people mentioned Jesus" as proof of a truth.[/quote]
Options
Disable HTML in this message
Disable BB Code in this message
Disable smilies in this message
Review message
Search
Recent Topics
Hottest Topics