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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Note that a lot of legacy kids who start in K are really bright. I am very skeptical about the methods that schools use to judge kids for K admit. Hunter is the worst - their K evaluation process is garbage and the kids who get in in 7th grade blow those kids away.

But those who graduated from TT schools and are now old enough to have kids are generally pretty bright. Bright people tend to have bright kids. Yes, there are plenty of exceptions to the rule, but overall, the rule applies. They have good genetic makeup, but more importantly, they are surrounded by their parents having intelligent conversations, parents friends who are smart, successful people, parents are focused on education so make sure homework is getting done. It's not just about affording tutors and enrichment. It is day-to-day life. I'm sure I will get pushback on this but it is true. Children of dedicated teachers apply to this theory too and they are not rich.

So though I tend to agree with the theory that the kids who enter later tend to on average likely be brighter because they are getting in based on more meaningful academic metrics, a lot of the lifers are also bright because they come from bright families, and the K-8 education they got at the TT school, though perhaps not super rigorous, is still meaningful.

And having already been at the school, the transition to HS tends to be smoother just because things aren't as new to them - less culture shock. New kids tend to get over that very quickly, but it is still a thing.[/quote]

So by and large does this mean that in general and on average those who test in will be more academically performant throughout high school and, by extension, have better college outcomes absent the impact of donor status, athletic recruitment and other 'hooks'?[/quote]

Did you read what this poster said?

Very bright “survivors” have great outcomes. Very bright 7th grade and 9th grade admits have great outcomes. If you want to rip through the statistics of who comes out #1, it’ll vary class to class.

If you’re a kindergarten applicant and thinking about this now— you have an exhausting journey ahead of you. [/quote]

Sorry, my question could have been asked more clearly. What I'm really getting at is the following. Picking on Trinity because it admits the most for high school. Assuming 120 kids in the graduating class and 35% ivy+ matriculation rate this yields 42 admits. Let's say 14 (1/3) are donors, 6 are Prep for Prep, 10 others are athletes or some other hook, this leaves 12 spots left for the remaining 90 students. Two questions:

1) Is this breakdown overly punitive (e.g. the assumed proportion of donors and 'hooked' kids is too high)?
2) If it's not too punitive, how many of those 12 spots go to survivors vs kids who test in during 9th grade?

I understand the numbers will vary by class but surely over many years they average out to a range. Would love to know what folks think. [/quote]

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