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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The "$400k HHI is middle class!" DCUM-er[/quote]

it's not?  [/quote]

For people who grew up MC, $400k [b]in the DC area[/b] sure doesn’t feel that much different. Still just a cog in the machine. 
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We are all cogs in the machine on some level … maybe it is easier to accept that at lower income levels … but I  can see how this might be insulting to some hard working families scraping by in DC area/DMV on much lower income than that. They still have to pay high rents/ mortgages and utility bills.

We all have agency whatever our income levels. [/quote]

It's totally insulting, and I think it leads to poor political outcomes. If you make that much money and you think that your struggles are the same as somebody who is making 50K, you're going to have a really skewed picture of reality and you'll be a clueless voter.[/quote]

Depending on how you define “middle class”, 50k isn’t really middle class for a family of four in the DC area.

From a few years ago (would be shifted higher today): 
[i]Based on the current median family income of $95,995, the range of middle-class family incomes in Washington is from $63,997 (two-thirds of the median) to $191,990 (double the median). Five years ago, those respective figures were $52,662 and $157,986.
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/wealthier-middle-class-emerging-washington-220318083.html
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Totally, but I'm thinking more about national politics. [/quote]

Ok. I was talking about DC (bolded) but ok. $50k is still very bottom of “middle class” for the US.

When you add in LMC and UMC the range of “middle class” gets even wider. Top of UMC for US is ~$370k; would be greater for the DC area. 
https://money.usnews.com/money/personal-finance/family-finance/articles/where-do-i-fall-in-the-american-economic-class-system

UMC feels more like MC than it feels like “wealthy”. Not just from an income perspective. Still working a job to pay the bills. 
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$400k is UMC for the DC area. [/quote]

$400K is not even close to UMC for the DC area.  Median HHI in MD, DC and VA is about $90-95K.  Median.  The UMC makes about $100-150K, possibly as much as $175K.  $400K is about the top 1-1.5% of HHI in every part of the metropolitan area (top 1% varies between about $375K-500K depending on the area).  You cannot really think that the top 1-2% of a region with a population close to 6.25M is UMC.

There is a reason you are one of the annoying DCUM posters this thread is talking about.
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