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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Harvard has 6.56% Black students
Yale has 6.53% Black students
Princeton has 10% Black students (undergrad)

Can someone please explain to me how this is unacceptable to folks? Would y'all prefer those percentages be 0%??

https://datausa.io/profile/university/harvard-university#:~:text=The%20enrolled%20student%20population%20at%20Harvard%20University%20is%2039.7%25%20White,Hawaiian%20or%20Other%20Pacific%20Islanders.
https://datausa.io/profile/university/yale-university
https://inclusive.princeton.edu/about/demographics[/quote]

Why don't you study and work hard if you want to get into elite colleges?  You think some people should have guaranteed seats?Isn't it common sense?
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Many people study and work hard and get into elite schools.

Then other people get mad, take their SAT score and create lawsuits to say those people did not belong in an elite college based solely on their SAT score.

Why do these people assume they should get the seat instead?[/quote]

Wrong again. 
Nothing was ever based solely on SAT score.

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Frankly, nothing should be based on SAT scores. It's a billion dollar industry racket.

And it's basically guaranteed this won't be the case due to test-optional.

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Any professor who has  ever taught even quasi-quantitative courses (which I have) will tell you that the math score on the SAT is the single best predictor of performance and ability in quantitative fields, unless you have something like a statewide or national award in a competitive technical field. You can poopoo the test and celebrate test optional and claim that URM candidates with lower scores are just as good for those fields. But all of those things are foolish.[/quote]

Professor here. How do you know your students’ SAT math scores?[/quote]

Exactly.

For some reason, a small subset of people are obsessed with SAT scores.

It's ONE data point due to performance for a fixed 3-hour interval ( soon to be 2 hours).

People don't talk about your SAT score in college. That's silly. [/quote]
is it silly for colleges to take AP exam scores? They are also a data point from a 2 hour interval.

Grades can be overinflated; kids can cheat and get good grades.

What other academic measure should colleges use?[/quote]

The best independents are dropping AP classes because it leads to teaching to the test or some other excuse. If you pull all objective measures, schools will have to fall back on admitting the bulk of students who do well at schools that the colleges are already familiar with and then filling out classes with students from unknown schools and hoping. That situation works out really well if you attend an elite private school, and not so well if you attend a public school that doesn't regularly send graduates out of state or to top schools. [/quote]
And this is what those institutions did way back to exclude Jews. We've come full circle.[/quote]

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