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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Harvard has 6.56% Black students
Yale has 6.53% Black students
Princeton has 10% Black students (undergrad)

Can someone please explain to me how this is unacceptable to folks? Would y'all prefer those percentages be 0%??

https://datausa.io/profile/university/harvard-university#:~:text=The%20enrolled%20student%20population%20at%20Harvard%20University%20is%2039.7%25%20White,Hawaiian%20or%20Other%20Pacific%20Islanders.
https://datausa.io/profile/university/yale-university
https://inclusive.princeton.edu/about/demographics[/quote]

Why don't you study and work hard if you want to get into elite colleges?  You think some people should have guaranteed seats?Isn't it common sense?
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Many people study and work hard and get into elite schools.

Then other people get mad, take their SAT score and create lawsuits to say those people did not belong in an elite college based solely on their SAT score.

Why do these people assume they should get the seat instead?[/quote]

Wrong again. 
Nothing was ever based solely on SAT score.

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Frankly, nothing should be based on SAT scores. It's a billion dollar industry racket.

And it's basically guaranteed this won't be the case due to test-optional.

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Any professor who has  ever taught even quasi-quantitative courses (which I have) will tell you that the math score on the SAT is the single best predictor of performance and ability in quantitative fields, unless you have something like a statewide or national award in a competitive technical field. You can poopoo the test and celebrate test optional and claim that URM candidates with lower scores are just as good for those fields. But all of those things are foolish.[/quote]

DP : But what about everyone else? Real question: what’s the percentage of students who choose “quantitative “ majors?  Outside of service academies and Tech schools, what’s a ballpark figure of how many students you’re talking about? I’m thinking it’s very small, but that’s based solely on my own academic experiences which have had a heavy liberal arts bias.

Oddly, at one point, SATs were probably one of the most significant factors that got URM students INTO highly selective schools in the first place.  I think SATs are being misunderstood by many people as being a much more significant factor in admissions than they actually are — particularly after a certain range of scores.
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Define quantitative. This is from 2017, https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2017/11/16/concentrations-2017/ but the rankings were Econ followed by comp sci followed by government, applied math and psychology. Three out of those. five are absolutely quantitive. For the other two, you're not going to be able to read a research paper or conduct a study without understanding math, but careful course selection may let you avoid that. [/quote]

I’m the PP you’re responding to — and I asked the question to get a clearer understanding of how the PP that I responded to was defining “quantitative fields.”

In any case, I appreciate this information — and can see that the rankings are different from what I would have guessed.  I’m now very curious about where English majors fall on that list.  I’m also surprised— as a former Psych major myself — that psychology made the top five.  
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