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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Do people really believe that when a white person is discriminated against solely based on their race, that it's not racism?

I'd never argue that it's as "bad" or damaging as when other races are the brunt of this because white people still have some protection generally speaking, but I'm so confused how "discriminating on the basis of race" somehow now includes "unless that race is white" in which case you deserve everything that comes to you.[/quote]

Because white supremacy is institutionalized. So if a POC decides that they don't want to mess with white people because of their lifelong experience with institutionalized white supremacy, that is not racism or legal discrimination. It's just how an individual POC decides to deal with white supremacy. You can argue with whether it's the most effective or useful way to approach, but it's still not racism.

Now if an institution excluded white people because they were white, that would be different. But they don't! White people can go to historically black colleges, for instance. In my experience, white people can even join affinity groups (like the Black Employees Alliance at a company), and while they may not feel like they fit in, they are still allowed. They just largely choose not to. But I dare you to find an example of institutional exclusion of white people, as opposed to some individual people just deciding they don't want to be friends with, interact with, or date white people.

There is no such thing as racism against white people.[/quote]
Really, there's no such thing as racism against White people? I highly doubt Louis Farrakhan would allow a White Jew or any other sub-category of White persons to join the Nation of Islam. Have you ever been to South Africa? I have and making fun of very poor White people and relating their poverty to their Whiteness is definitely a thing. [/quote]

Please don't do this here. This shouldn't devolve into All Lives Matter. This has been a really productive and thoughtful conversation.[/quote]

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