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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]I love how the same people calling her boring and phony are so seized on her alleged hot and deeply passionate relationship with that rat-faced singer and psycho-analyzing all of her lyrics allegedly about him.[/b] Her entire life is fake. She doesn't know up from down. She's a socially stunted child star weirdo. And she clearly isn't writing all of her songs, she obvi has teams of ghostwriters signing NDAs, so I wouldn't read anything into the babble she sings.[/quote]

:lol:  You just described yourself.  And yes - she does indeed write her own songs either alone or with collaborators (Jack Antonoff, Aaron Dessner, Shellback, Max Martin, Bon Iver, etc.) - and she credits them each and every time.  [/quote]

She does not credit people every single time or she would have credited Michael Jackson and "I Want You Back" for using his ideas for "Wood" on TLOAS.

Antonoff is over her.

Shellback and Martin are likely over her by now. You can hear how she doesn't listen to Martin and Shellback and talks over them if you listen to her voice memos. If you listen to Ariana and Martin working together, you see a whole different level of professionalism and collaboration.

It's fine. She can be mid and still sell out her stadiums. Her core fans will buy anything at this point--even broken TLOAS hairbrushes and lightning bolt necklaces that break.
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You keep bringing up her “voice memos.”  I have no idea what you’re referencing.  But how funny that someone who thinks she’s “mid” and is fixated on baseless, evidence-free claims, knows all about obscure things that most people couldn’t care less about.

You are the very definition of a “core fan,” which must be upsetting for you to acknowledge![/quote]

I thought the same thing! I’m actually a pretty big Taylor fan and I have never heard these voice memos lol.

It’s so weird that a non-fan would bother. [/quote]

It reminds me of "Actually Romantic," tbh!  I'm not a fan of that song, but it completely applies to the rabid haters here.  They spend SO much time and energy researching the mundane and diving down internet rabbit holes that normal people simply don't care about.  Someone else was referring to Swift fans as "parasocial," but that term perfectly describes her haters.  It's pretty amusing.[/quote]

TBH, I wouldn’t point out that song as being anything but cringe. She says it makes her get sexual pleasure from it,  (but not in a lesbian way, one would presume). In the manly “ I get sexual pleasure when I establish dominance over women” kind of way.[/quote]

“Dominance”?  It is indeed a cringey song, but you’re reading waaaaaaay too much into it.[/quote]

Nope.  That is what it means.  If you can’t understand the implied/implicit meaning behind things, cool, but those kind of statements (this is like a guy saying he gets “wood” when a woman talks bad about him) have dominance/power behind it.   Especially when Taylor is clearly top of the music food chain at the moment, this is a power play. By all means, give it your own shallow reading, but it is CRINGEY!!![/quote]

Oh wow.  What's cringey is your entire take.  Gross, in fact.  [/quote]

Cognitive dissonance explains how cults exploit people's need to reduce the mental discomfort of conflicting beliefs and actions by reinforcing commitment to the group. When members invest heavily in a cult—through time, money, or emotional energy—and later face evidence that contradicts the group's ideology, they experience dissonance. To resolve this tension, instead of abandoning their investment, members may rationalize or double down on their beliefs, becoming more devoted to reduce the pain of admitting they were wrong. 
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Applies to the haters as well, the ones who used to be fans. They obsessed over every detail, now they don't like her anymore for whatever reason, but they can't just give up because they spent so much time and know so many details. Instead of giving up the obsession, they spend so much time going around the internet trying to convert others and convince them how much she sucks, and how they are sheeple for liking her.

I'm just a casual fan. I like some songs and not others. I listen to the ones I like, watch her performances, don't follow her relationships, and don't care about her politics. I can admit there are many areas where she could improve, but think she generally works really hard and does the best with what she's got (eg, creates a great stage show despite not being a great singer or natural dancer).[/quote]

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