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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]If your priority is to see your child experience the best of all worlds (elite education, strategic networking and preparing for graduate school and/or professional endeavors, career outcomes, and especially the overall social experience), the large public institutions like the Berkeley, UCLA, Michigan, Florida, Texas, UNC and Virginia are far ahead of the one- or two-dimensional environments that define all of the privates in the Top 25.[/b] If you’re treating your child’s college experience as essentially a trade school where they are there exclusively to train for a specific career in finance or software development or civil engineering, sure, feel free to take the WSJ rankings seriously. But if you have any interest in college being the transformative experience for your child that it often is for those who get the most from it, flagship public over private all day, every day.[/quote] This assertion is not in any way supported by facts.[/quote] Look at any survey of college students for your facts.[/quote] OK. I looked at Niche surveys for academics and the top 25 privates do better than Berkeley, UCLA, Michigan, Florida, Texas, UNC, and Virginia.[/quote] Social experience, quality of life, and research budget don’t mean much to you, apparently. Checks out. College is a pre-professional trade school for your kid(s), and I’m sure they are happy, well-adjusted souls.[/quote] You know nothing about me. Why don't you cite actual facts? Don't you have any?[/quote] You literally cited subjective academic rankings and ignored the others aspects of the college experience that I noted have plenty of value for parents seeking to identify the best fit for well-rounded applicants. And no, band / orchestra and coding competitions / Science Olympiad awards, etc. don’t make a kid well-rounded.[/quote] DP here. So what makes a kid well rounded? [/quote] For me? In addition to notable academic achievements (grade inflation and super scoring have largely distorted what that means for many people, unfortunately), athletic achievement at a level that results in some level of recruitment, active participation in clubs and ECs that are diverse, support community, and align with college major interests, etc., and the ability to socialize with a broad range of peers are all part of the effort to nurture a well-rounded kid. I don’t think there’s a one-size-fits-all formula, but I can tell you that high-level academics + ECs that don’t manage to cultivate social development that can be expressed in mainstream society (like band /orchestra or the various olympiads / coding competitions) is not a formula that gets there.[/quote]
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