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Reply to ""Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests"
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]Look, you're really not winning either way. Given academics already went by the wayside when you started doing social promotion, what's the fucking difference whether a kid drops out of school in 10th grade versus stays through 12th and graduates, but really only got an 8th grade education because he fell behind, was lost/gave up long prior and was only carried along by the inertia of social promotion? It's mostly already a sham at that point. [b]The only point seems to be to keep them off the street. [/b]Used to be that if they dropped out early, at least they might find a job somewhere but even that's screwed at this point. [/quote] Well, you do know that the feds are also requiring the districts to report graduation rates, right? The districts are under pressure to increase their high school graduation rates. What do you think was going to happen? I think that they really do need to give these kinds of students a different type of diploma and acknowledge that Keep them off the streets, yes. But keep them in a program that is productive for them---one that will lead to a job that's not "do you want fries with that?" We used to do this in this country (with tech type classes). The state of Texas seems to have this figured out (they have 3 different levels of diplomas). Why can't we do that? Other industrialized countries do that with great success (Germany as exhibit A). [/quote] Right - we don't seem to do things like vo-tech robustly anymore - let alone as robustly as they do it in Germany as you mention, where trades also in some cases have practicing apprenticeships. We seem to have undervalued things like these - yet by the same token, there still needs to be recognition that even the trades need a certain level of functionality - kids will still need a robust level of math and basic algebra for cost estimating, et cetera, trigonometry is needed in many construction/manufacturing fields, et cetera - not to mention solid literacy skills for reading complex technical instruction, contracts, et cetera.[/quote]
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