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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I personally saw this episode as a possible foreshadowing of 2024 and it made me sick. I was down all night. [/quote]

I agree. I found it very sickening to watch.[/quote]
I agree. It was disaster porn and lazy writing.  [/quote]

This episode was far from Lazy writing.  It touched us all so much, a terrifying idea of what could happen in the next election, and brought up history from 2016/2020.  It was a great episode, perhaps the best one I've seen on Succession (Logan's death was the best acting). [/quote]

Agree, and I also appreciate how much this episode refused to soften any of the characters or make any of them sympathetic. There was a moment when I felt bad for Shiv (when she tells Tom about the pregnancy and then he asks if she's just using this as a tactic) but I didn't find her very sympathetic. But even in that moment, I can recall a million times when Shiv was very cruel and terrible to Tom and I kind of get where he is coming from.

It reminds me of Veep, which could also be a hard watch even when it was very funny, because it's incredibly cynical about the people it portrays. But that cynicism allows them to be honest in a way a lot of scripted series are not. It's brutal but, I think, revealing. This episode was miserable to watch but will also stay with me a long time in a positive way, in terms of shaping how I think about media and politics and who has my best interests at heart (hint: none of the people in charge).[/quote]

IMO Shiv used that moment to tell Tom she’s pregnant as a manipulation tactic. She starts out asking him to meet privately during an enormously frantic and stressful time period at work when he has no extra time. Yet she picks RIGHT NOW to take him aside and say “hey, I’m sorry for the way I spoke and what I said last night”. And then expects he to get in line and apologize to her. When he doesn’t react the way she expects, she uses the other information in her toolbox: her pregnancy info. She weaponizes this info and blurts it out. Right there and then. She’s had plenty of other chances in much less frantic moments and knowing the person she is and all her history of being so mean to Tom she uses this as a way to get him to act like she wants. Of course he’s suspicious of her motives and truthfulness. Anyone would be. [/quote]

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