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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Dawn seems desperate and narcissistic; Larson seems cliquey and plagiaristic.[/quote]

They both have their faults. One’s desperate for affection and validation, one’s just sort of cold.

Larson’s portrayal of Dawn as having White Savior Complex for donating a kidney seems misplaced and, almost a cliché or low hanging fruit, or is just wrong. But perhaps Larson’s upbringing as mixed race in a white community, and in the current era of racial reckoning or what have you, would have her instinctively posit that racial component to the donation. I don’t see where she used the kidney to gain racial points, but who knows.

I am a man writing this. Is this how women generally are to one another? Maybe it’s my sexism or sterotyping, but are women just mean to one another? If so, why? I’ve seen so much catty behavior over the years and this story is another example. Men are more straightforward with their interactions. I guess people view us as generally less emotionally nuanced, but Jesus, it seems better than sickly sweet backstabbing behavior like these two writers.[/quote]

I am a woman. I made it to a pretty far professionally. I usually would rather deal with men than women but just minimally. You aren’t wrong that women are frequently mean to each other in this catty way. Men tend to be more direct…unless they can’t get their way. Then they will resort to mind games.

I think the people that engage in those types of behavior are exhibiting their feelings of powerlessness, whether real or perceived.

But anyways, most women experience sexual harassment in the workplace. Many women also endure mental abuse from male partners. Outside of direct assault or stalking, isn’t most of that behavior by men towards women essentially catty social tactics and mind games? Maybe you don’t witness men doing it as much because you’re male?

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The entire framing of this dispute as a catty catfight is deeply misogynist and sexist.[/quote]

The fact that the NY Times and Kolker haven't addressed this feels like being sexually assaulted and not believed. Again.[/quote]

As a fellow sexual assault survivor, I get you. I'm appalled at the institutions here: the NYT and GrubStreet. Without the weight of their institutional power, this would not have happened.

And of course, because we know abuse never happens in a vaccuum, what else has been handled this way? What other complaints did GrubStreet torpedo? What other abuses were condoned -- in fact encouraged by executive management -- at GrubStreet? The NYT writes about vulnerable people: which of their stories have been twisted? What stories have been inaccurate and slanted? Whose lives have been turned upside down because of unethical reporting? What's unusual here is [I]only[/I] the discovery, so there is factual evidence to contradict the NYT reporting. But what about NYT stories where we can't collectively fact-check the NYT? What of the NYT reporting can we actually trust? Any of it?

I think it is a real misstep to lay this at the feet of Larson alone, or even Larson and the Chunky Monkeys. The worst actors here are the institutions with power that they used in immoral and unethical ways. [/quote]

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