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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What's sad to me is that things like this happened from time to time when I was in college in the 80s.  No one called it assault. No one reported it.  The women felt like crap for drinking too much or trusting the wrong guy.  It's taking time but the perspective us changing. Emily Doe may end having a big effect on the national conversation. Good outcome to a bad event. [/quote]

Huh?  Yes even back in the day it was frowned upon BIG TIME to sexually touch a passed out woman...or photograph her...or invite other guys in to look at her...whatever.  Same with women and passed out men - it would have been frowned upon to touch a passed out guy's body/take pictures of him/invite the girls in to gawk at him.   In general, college kids treat each other with decency thank goodness.  But there are some that don't and they were viewed as a problem then just as much as they are now.

Women feel shame when this happens because they know that they drank way too much, allowed a guy that they didn't know to have access to their body, then passed out and lost complete control and memory over what may/may not have happened to them.  And they have no way to know what happened or prove that anything happened much less who was responsible.

It has never been a good idea to get Black out drunk.  And passing out outside on a public street by a dumpster is about as out of control as it gets.[/quote]

I know what I saw and heard in college. I know the things that went on. You may say it was frowned upon big time. But honestly at my small private college in NE no one said much of anything.   In my perspective things have vastly changed.   You may have a different experience. But that does not make mine invalid [/quote]

You could get yourself arrested and kicked out of school for being a part of this sort of thing - yes, sexually touching/abusing a passed out person was absolutely frowned on at the large public university that I went to.  [/quote]

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