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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]Test prep produces no real learning[/b], just spit-out-the-answer for the test capability.You can answer test questions correctly without having mastered the subject matter.

You cannot "prep and train the LD"- this phrase makes no sense. A learning disability is a difference in how a person learns.

Everyone has differences in how they learn. The more we know about our own particular differences, the better we can reach our potential. Do we learn best by seeing or by hearing or by doing? These are real differences in how people learn and knowing how we best learn can be truly useful in how we approach learning new subjects.

Test prep is useless to true learning.[/quote]

but it can get someone into AAP - and they can learn in there - so it does lead indirectly to learning.  :D[/quote]

But the teacher will have to make the level of instruction meet the level of the student's ability to learn quickly and easily which will remain the same, even if the child has been "trained" to spit out test answers.

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Yes, but now the student is not only in the program, but it is tailored for his ability by the teacher.  Sounds like a big win for that student.  Lesson:  "Get in at all cost, then let the chips fall were they may."
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No, because the student will continue to grasp and understand information at the same pace. The teacher will deal with that pace in either the regular classroom or the AAP classroom. The difference would be that the child who was placed in the AAP because of "test prep" would have been at the top of the regular classroom, but is at the bottom of the AAP classroom in terms of how quickly the child grasps new information.

The teacher in either classroom will tailor the material to the child's ability. That's what teachers do.

The amount of learning is the same in either place, the only difference being that Mom and Dad get their oh-so-important bragging rights when the child is in the AAP, which may be the real reason for "test prep."[/quote]

no, the curriculum and depth of instruction are better in AAP so you want to be in there if you can get in.  And just because you may start out at the bottom doesn't mean you'll stay there.  As we know very well, everyone who get in is[i] thriving[/i].[/quote]

You hear much about the kids who are thriving[b], you don't hear about the ones who are not thriving on a message board. [/b]The AAP classroom is only better for the kids who really need to be there. For the others, the teacher has to change the pacing and depth of instruction so that they can handle their studies. A child who doesn't really need the AAP would learn the same amount in a regular class while also having the opportunity to be a leader.

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Do you have any evidence that some aren't thriving?  This is the first I've heard of it. :([/quote]

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