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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The reason people are argueing about younger than the eligibility window of 8/1-7/31 but a grade up in school is because after switching from BY to SY these are the only "trapped" players if you want to call them that. What makes them different from BY trapped players is younger players can always play up. If leagues made a rule or even drafted a recommendation that young players play with their grade every game would be grouped by grade. Which is exactly what college recruiters want.

The people in leadership positions are just being dumb and stubborn. Initially the called it School Year then once people agreed to switching from Birth Year they wanted to change the name to Seasonal Year because they didnt want the connection to grade in school. Which was something that was used to justify changing from BY to SY. So much moving the goalposts around after the fact.

The reality is club soccer and High School / College Soccer are different worlds. Either College Soccer needs to become more like club or Club Soccer needs to implement ways to bridge the gap between club and college. Younger players playing with their grade is an easy way to bring the two worlds together.[/quote]

It is a very small issue, like very small. It only seems to be an issue here because of one or two aggrieved posters obsessing over it. But in reality, it is nothing compared to the trapped issues under BY. No one cares if the 2 or 3% of grade misaligned players play up, down or whatever.

The leadership doesn’t care either because it was much worse under BY, plus it wasn’t a real issue prior to BY. And they have much bigger fish to fry. This is a non-issue to them.

By the actual written rule they can do either. And both situations will happen. That’s it. Seriously, who cares? If you are one of the 2% of players who may be eligible to play with a grade lower than your current grade, find a club that will accommodate your needs. Whatever those are. [/quote]
I agree that from the actual written rules both situations can potentially occur for younger than the eligibility window but grade up players.

The issue, if you want to call it that is GY (grade year) slippery slope. If leagues implemented a rule or a recommendation that young players play with their grade what you've done is grouped players by grade but without holdbacks/redshirts. Which is something club parents really like because they're footing the bill. Other people want to implement GY with regrades/holdbacks/redshirts in club soccer. Generally the way they plan to do it is by starting with GY Showcases. Which would end uo being something parents pay for but players 1-2 years older attend and play in.

If leagues implemented a rule or even a recommendation that young players play with their grade you would have teams grouped by grade but without holdbacks. Once implemented you could never implement GY showcases (with holdbacks) because teams would already be grouped by grade.

This is whats actually being argued about. Do you want GY Showcases where older players can play down 1-2 years in front of the recuiters youre paying for your kid to play in front of?[/quote]

What rules or recommendations and by who? There are none. I haven’t heard even the slightest rumors of one.

If you think there should be one, email the Orgs. Or write a good old fashioned letter. What good does arguing about something that doesn’t exist, here, on this thread do?

We might was well argue about the existence of aliens while we’re at it. [/quote]
What are you going to do when top clubs group their top teams by grade and dont allow younger than the eligibility window players to play down? This is what will happen because its what happened before.[/quote]

Top Clubs are MLS Next clubs 
They will never care about school grade[/quote]

To be fair, this person has a girl. So that side of the equation is not in play. [/quote]

You realize the most off the rails threads are focused on girls soccer

That said, why is school grade being prioritized when it's irrelevant beyond graduation year?
Other than trying to distract from the relevant soccer shortcomings of the player.
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Graduation year and school grade are considered the same thing by most people. Apparently not you though.[/quote]

Here's stupidity on display proudly

8th Grade is a school grade
2026 is a Graduation Year

Read it slowly repeatedly till you understand [/quote]
I cant keep watching this happen.

You do realize that if you know a players grade in school that you also know their graduation year. Also if you know a players graduation year you can track back to their grade in school.

They're the same thing. This is why people are laughing at you.[/quote]

So you can ask a kid, what's your Graduation Year and they'll respond, 7th Grade?[/quote]

🤔 okay, apparently they are not "the same thing"[/quote]

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