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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]RTO is BS. I say that as at work we were talking about improving morale.

Now we work from home Tuesday’s and Thursday’s and Friday is unofficially Jeans and Sneakers and long lunch and leave at 3-4pm

The people with no child care, near retirement, long commutes, people with second jobs, lazy people want more WFH to improve morale.

How does that accomplish anything?

The people who work wanted better training, free lunch, better promotion opportunities, greater access sr. Mgt, more meaningful work.

I mean next week Monday a Holiday, Tuesday WFH, Wed in office, Thursday WFH and Friday jeans and sneakers leave early. So more off is better?

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Working from home or wearing jeans doesn't mean you're getting a day off. [/quote]

In fantasy land. Ok so it has been proven WFH do 18 percent less work. They on average work 6 hours a day. And no commute.

So it is sleep in, get kids in bus,  check email at 8-9 while sipping coffee, off to gym, come back, move mouse around, off to supermarket or Starbucks or lunch with GFs, move mouse around, kids off bus, make snacks, check email. Around 8pm one last check email to to make it look like you work 12 hours a day.

Or worse my friends boss has two part time jobs, single mom with kids. Her calendar is booked 6-7 hours a day with her other jobs and kids stuff. She works tops 1-3 hours a week.

WFH is vacation [/quote]

Its more like 
work 6-7 (1h)
kid wakes at 7, help them with dress/teeth/dressing, walk them to school
back to work 830-200 (5.5h)
walk and pickup kid 2-3
3-430 work (1.5h)

I am available and logged in for 8 hours. I meet my deliverables and start working before most, available during core hours, and work into normal afternoon hours. My lunch is 2-3.

My DH works in DC and has an hour drive to/from. He leaves at 530 to get to work at 6 and is back at 330/4. So if I did not work from home, I would not be getting in until 9 or later since my commute is also 45-60minutes and I cant drop my kid off before 8am. I don't get paid enough for an au pair or nanny and I am not sure what the point of a "family friendly" workplace is that pays less than market rate because they are "family friendly" if my kids have to be raised by someone else/all care outsourced/act like I dont have a family.

WFH allows me to give the best of what's available to everyone from everyone who needs me. My job doesnt miss out on productivity/engagement and I dont miss out on time with my kid.

6-7am I catch up with whatever happened after 430. 830-2 I do my main workload. 3-430 is remainders and stragglers. I am available for meetings outside of these times with notice and no one has issues scheduling meetings with me.

I do grocery pickup only, make Nespresso each morning, and have a home gym so I am not at starbucks or spincycle or the grocery store. That 2-3 off time includes prepping a post-school snack.

Ive got the best of both worlds right now and that means I am committed to my job and company and also loyal. They want me to travel, great. They need a meeting at 530 for a west coast program, sure thing. I need to cover and double my workload while my supervisor is traveling or on a 2 week vacation, can do boss. If I am commuting 2 hours per day and dont see my family, you would get half of me because the other half is dreaming of WAH/a new job/ etc.

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Thanks for your detailed schedule, but putting your kids in before  care and / or aftercare and tag teaming the drop offs and pick ups with your husband does not mean other people are raising your children.  It’s what we did before COVID and we can do it again.  [/quote]

Okay sure.  But if you have a decent commute and work in an office 5x a week then you’re spending very very little time with your children.  Especially if they are young.  [/quote]

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