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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Harvard has 6.56% Black students
Yale has 6.53% Black students
Princeton has 10% Black students (undergrad)

Can someone please explain to me how this is unacceptable to folks? Would y'all prefer those percentages be 0%??

https://datausa.io/profile/university/harvard-university#:~:text=The%20enrolled%20student%20population%20at%20Harvard%20University%20is%2039.7%25%20White,Hawaiian%20or%20Other%20Pacific%20Islanders.
https://datausa.io/profile/university/yale-university
https://inclusive.princeton.edu/about/demographics[/quote]

I honestly don't care whether those student bodies are 30% black or 3% black, so long as the admissions factors are race-neutral.  I don't want a college excluding [b][i]or including[/b][/i] anyone because of the color of their skin.[/quote]

At lot of Asians come from countries where test scores are the determining factor for state college admission (in some countries private universities is a very new thing). It is all they know. Study hard, get good grades and test scores so you can hopefully get into a good state university.  It is why some can't understand why the same process does not work, and will never work, in the U.S.  Private institutions will always find a way to gerrymander the applicants to get the desired mix of students.
Most people who say this mean they want a way to game admissions in their favor. The last thing they want is a fair process.[/quote]

Nothing in elite private college admissions is "fair."

They are the "sellers" here and will pick whomever they want to shape a class.[/quote][/quote]

At lot of Asians come from countries where test scores are the determining factor for state college admission (in some countries private universities is a very new thing). It is all they know. [b]Study hard, get good grades and test scores so you can hopefully get into a good state university.  It is why some can't understand why the same process does not work, and will never work, in the U.S.[/b]  Private institutions will always find a way to gerrymander the applicants to get the desired mix of students.
Most people who say this mean they want a way to game admissions in their favor. The last thing they want is a fair process.[/quote]
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For about the millionth time on this thread, this isn't about the Asian American applicants who just had good grades/SATs. They were ranked very highly on ECs, recommendations, interviewers, etc as well.

This trope of Asians focused on grades is a red herring at this point.[/quote]
It's the only thing they can use to support race conscious admissions.[/quote]

Nope.

High stats and one dimensional.

The personal rating stuff was based on teacher recommendations, interviews ( have to show SOME personality), essays, etc.

Considering that Asians get "positive bias" in schooling K-12 from teachers because it's assumed that they're smart, any assessment on non academic aspects is fair game.

The courts didn't find any discrimination. Asians are overrepresented on college campuses. They will continue to be, which is great, but they're not being discriminated against.

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