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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]VYS parent here.  We started our season on Sat and same old story.  Good kids, shitty play.  Played strong in the first half, then choked in the second.  I'm on the verge of pulling my kid out, she's starting to hate soccer because the team sucks soo bad.
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If a kid hates soccer because the team sucks, then soccer isn't the sport for that kid, and it isn't the responsibility of any club to make sure all the kids teams win all the time so they will stay interested in the sport. They are there for the sport or they are not. It is black & white.[/quote]

Maybe the kid doesn't hate the sport but they do hate playing with their team.[/quote]

Exactly.  Sports teach a lot of life lessons about winning and losing and kids should play because they love the sport BUT, if teammates are not committed. If the coach isn't committed. etc. Then the kid should leave and find a team where he/she fits in.  Also, you don't want you kid to be one of the weakest players on the team nor one of the strongest.  Players need the right environment to develop.  The right answer is NOT...we play for Vienna no matter what.  If you don't want to play on a sh-t team then you must not love the sport.[/quote]

The quote at the top is probably just made up -- the troll was pretending to be someone he's not.

Anyway, though, you give great advice here. I just wonder: when is it time to stop switching teams and hoping to find just the right environment, do you think? Is there a point where you just say, yes, the coach is a buffoon, but DD at least has some friends on the team, so we're going to stick it out? I kind of wonder if there even is "the right environment" considering how issue-plagued travel clubs seem to be these days. Your thoughts?[/quote]

Clubs are not all as terrible as they are made out to be at this site. Half of the problem falls upon parental expectations that can be unrealistic. That said, as eluded to earlier, the mentality at VYS seems to feed on that "just stay here and have fun" which truly is a rec mentality at a travel level. And many comments seem angry at those who claim to either have left or have expressed a desire to leave for a more competitive environment. Winning isn't everything and it certainly is not a measure of development but being competitive is important. [/quote]

Clubs won't admit it, but winning is a gauge used to measure success.  No coach is going to keep his/her job by loosing or at minimum put together a competitive team, to do so you want to attract like minded players.  It really comes down to what is best for the player, if you want to learn soccer, get exercise, and make friends VYS can supply that just as good as anyone.  If you aspire to play in college or pro at some level, he/she may choose a neighboring club that will provide you better exposure.  I think many times, probably most of the time it's the parents that are seeking "better" clubs, not the kids.  We left VYS years ago, but enjoyed the time that we were a part of the club.[/quote]

Coaches don't get fired for losing, coaches get fired for losing players. [/quote]

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