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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm excited not to see "Thanks Obama" posted by my poor, redneck relatives every time something doesn't go their way.

Years ago my uneducated uncle in MI lived the good life.  He worked for Ford and made a good salary in a low COL place.  But instead of investing that money and using it for useful things, he blew through it.  My mom (CPA) always did his taxes and I can remember her telling him that he needed to be saving more.  Even though he made a good living, most of his money was gone by the time the next paycheck came.  He never thought long-term; that something could happen and he could lose his job.  Because America needs cars!  There will always be jobs to build cars!  He and his family had multiple Ford cars & trucks, rented their house instead of buying one, had two boats, several quads, a little ice fishing shack in the U.P., all the latest gadgets and toys, etc.

Then he lost his job.  He had to sell everything just to get rent money.  And then after a few months of only being able to find minimum wage jobs, he had to borrow money from my parents.  I remember my parents even sending boxes of Christmas presents for his kids a few years because they had no money.  He blames all of that on the Dems.  No blame lies in the fact that he never tried in school to get good grades to go to college.  Or that he never saved a penny from those large paychecks.  Or that he blew his money on crap.  Or that he didn't take up my mom's offer to pay for community college so he could learn another trade/skill.  The blame lies on the Dems and the illegal Mexicans taking all the good jobs.  He voted Trump and he's 100% convinced that those manufacturing jobs are coming back to MI and he'll be living the good life again soon.  
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Sadly I think there are more government jobs than manufacturing jobs in the US.  That doesn't seem right.  My uncle worked to his 40s at a low-level, blue collar, municipal government job.  Retired and never worked again for 40 years.  B[b]y the time he died, he was millionaire from his pension. [/b] The executor was able to use his money to pay for his nursing home costs.  He and his wife had lived frugally, traveled the US extensively and nearly full time.  In the end a couple years ago, his heirs split the approximately half-million still left.[/quote]

Do you not realize that the federal pension system has changed dramatically?  If your post is accurate, your uncle was likely on the OLD pension system.  No federal employee is going to become a millionaire from their pension under the current system, especially with the rising costs of health care.  Stop spreading myths.

For what it's worth, I have relatives and know people who retired from industry jobs, police jobs, and the military and have far better pensions and benefits than what federal employees get.  Most of them were also actually able to collect those pensions at a younger age.  Most federal employees can retire young but aren't able to collect their pension until their close to 60.   Even then, their pension is determined by years of service, so they would have had to start as a federal employee at a young age.

Not to mention, nursing home costs have skyrocketed.  If your uncle and aunt had to go into a nursing home today, there wouldn't be much leftover for their heirs.[/quote]

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