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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote] I just don't understand this at all! It seriously makes me want to cry that we can't even get something this small and logical passed[/quote]

Because if this "small and logical" bill is passed, it is only another "small and logical" step to ban another weapon type say any rifle over 30 caliber, then the number of bullets you can have and then eventually all weapons to disarm the law-abiding population.

[b]Taking away the rights of the citizenry rarely starts with one big sweep of legislation, it is small steps during a "crisis" where these freedoms and rights are chipped away[/b].
We have the right to bear arms, any arms, and [b]as many and of whatever type we want[/b].  Period. End of discussion.   No one, no matter how pompous and big mouthed does not get to filibuster away our constitutional rights. [/quote]

You mean regulating the rights of citizenry in ways that are sensible and will PROTECT the citizenry . . . because you know as well as I do that no one is taking away your rights. Asking to show that you're a law abiding, sane person before having guns is NOT asking a lot. And the only ones being targeted for "banning", and rightfully so, are the military style assault rifle which have no place in civil society. If you don't see that, there is not a shred of sense in you.

And as to the second bold, that just shows you don't understand constitutional law.  Becuase that is NOT what it means. Even constitutional rights like free speech and assembly and religion can be and are regulated.  Go yell "Fire" in a crowded movie theater and see what happens . . . . [/quote]

Here is the problem with having to prove to the government that I am sane:  it is an affront to my sensibilities that I am guilty (of insanity) by default until I can prove otherwise.

That is obnoxious. Criminals certainly are not going to abide by any such limitatoins but we law-abiding citizens will have to just as they have to in Chicago and DC where the criminals can pretty much gun down anyone they want with impunity because the attempts to circumvent the 2nd amendment make it difficult to keep and bear arms.

Yeah, I know there are limitations on the right to bear arms just as there are with freedom of speech but the two are not comparable:  a person should be able to have as many and of any type of arm for self defence, collecting, or just to feel safe.

Furthermore, the citizenry should be armed with military grade weaponry to send a clear message to the government:  you try to mess with us and you see Orlando?  Well, try to get uppity and tyrannical and it will be the senate floor, supreme court room, or the house of reps where you'll see the gunning down.

A government that has a healthy fear of its citizens is a good thing because it prevents evil leaders from acting with impunity like it has so many times with the kings of Europe and the communist dictators of the world[/quote]

I'm sorry but you just sound silly.  We have so many checks and balances in our government. And your fear-mongering just has no place in this discussion b/c that's what it is. Nothing more. The only fear I have is of citizens like yourself who have an arsenal in their homes. Those people have a bad day, get ill, get drunk, whatever  . . . Last I checked, that is where the problems lie.

And as for the not comparable rights . . . there is no precedence or importance. That is clear from a reading of it and, if there was, the first amendment was, well, first. And, "obnoxious" is really not a reason going to pass the sniff test. The fact is, this is about the safety of the citizens you proclaim to care about so much. That is the need for regulation and we've seen that proven time and again, from 20 dead innocent first-graders in their classrooms to 49 innocent people just celebrating their lives. It's disgusting that you woudl place your convenience over their lives.[/quote]

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