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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Our LLIV can't fill a class each grade level either. There is a "lottery" for the extra spaces that is not an actual lottery. High SES school in a good pyramid. The politics behind the lottery are ugly.[/quote]

+1. We must be neighbors!  This is my kids LLIV ES. The politics of pupil placement made the school environment toxic. Until the principal gave up and stopped placing kids altogether. Then the AAP class had 16 kids and the Gen Ed classes had 29.  Which also created a nasty "the AAP kids get all the resources "environment.  Seriously, everyone pushing for LLIV so that you go back to a "regular, neighborhood school" needs be careful what they wish for.  Turns out lots of people  (parents and kids)  get unhappy when some kids get "chosen" for the "special" class and others don't.  [/quote]

I'm curious about this. What politics could be at play? Why wouldn't the class just be filled with level III kids??[/quote]

Turns out that building a single AAP class is a very Goldilocks thing.  When you add level III, you can get more than a full class and some level III kids don't make the cut and the principal has to choose who. Or that even with level III there aren't enough kids and you still have to subjectively choose the remainders.  And you know her child was only chosen because she is a PTA officer/ does this that or the other for the school / etc.  As a PP said-- every parent thinks her kid should fill out the class.  And is deeply upset when Larla isn't chosen by the principal.  Often, much more upset than when Larla isn't selected for level IV to begin with.  And very nasty to Larla's now former BFF who is in the class, and will be at the same school but in a[b] separate, "better"  class for the next 4 years[/b].  My eldest DC got a great education staying at his affluent ES LLIV program (95% of the qualified kids stayed)-- and don't have to change schools and stayed in our neighborhood, with kindergarten friends. DC went on to a very competitive center MS and more than held their own.  But watching the AAP vs GE parents each year was nauseating. You really don't want this atmosphere at your neighborhood school. [/quote]

Wait so principal placed kids who are not level IV follow the level IV class every year???? So if you are level III or below and get principal placed for 3rd grade, that is your class for 3-6th? Each year there is not a new principal placed selection?[/quote]

I can only speak for our ES. Their stated goal is to place kids who can qualify for level IV before MS, and then work with AARTs to get the kids qualified by MS. I understand they do a pretty good job. And they do try to keep the class together. But, if the level III and below kids are not guaranteed seats and the level IV kids are. If kids move into the school or kids outside the class test in, they have to move down to GE to make room the next year. It's not a great situation for them.  Also agree with PP that the cliques (parent & kid) are vicious-- especially the girls. We had one DC do Center & one do LLIV, and the Center had, by far, a better atmosphere (in terms of community as well as academics) -- way less back biting and tension.  I don't think people pushing LLIV have any idea what they are in for. [/quote]

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