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An IQ test is not pass / fail. It is a measure of ones ability -- not ones knowledge.

Fine. Here is how you do it right. Schedule a WISC. The night before, break into the psychologists office, and obtain a copy of the WISC to be administered. Write down down the answers on the kids hands. Then you can have a genius.

You live in a strange neighborhood. I have never heard of a kid breaking into the psychologists office to steal a WISC and a list of answers. This hypothetical sounds preposterous. Test-prep is great for kids. Hard work and prep is the best route for success...unless you are have a Trump and inherit 200 million dollars from your father!

[quote]Here is why you are wrong. Very wrong.

The purpose of the tests are understand how these people approach the problem when they have not seen them before. By seeing the problem is advance through prepping (and I define prepping to be obtaining copies of the test or similar tests and using those as a study guide), it becomes a measure of how well a kid remembers what they saw before. It is no difference than a spelling test.

But the real problem with this test prep culture is it does not work in the long term. You end up with robots who can regurgitate answers but not solve new problems themselves.

There are books that contain practice tests that are so similar to the real test that kids who have used those books say that the test was exactly like their practice book, according to the website advertising one brand of these books. So, one doesn't have to "sneak" the test copy, since at least one publisher has produced a test that is so close to the actual test that kids feel as though they've already seen the test while they're taking the test at school. [/quote]

Stop this foolishness.  The only fair test by your definition is a test written in a foreign language (e.g. Hausa) then there is a guarantee in our digital world Americans would not have seen any elements of this test in their schools, camps, home, internet, world wide web and environment.  One doesn't have to use a VISA card to sign up for a test-prep class or steal the questions from the psychologists office to have exposure to the content, form, topics, ideas, and format of any test.  One can get this experience, exposure and familiarity from one's environment.  Thus, a really smart and intelligent American child would be the one solving a problem in another unfamiliar tongue -- Hausa.  I am sure the lady with the A in a subject she never studied would get a solid F and the designation of very low IQ.[/quote]

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