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There are so many more ways that these children could have been endangered. On a scale of 1-10, with the most amount of neglect being a 10, I'd give this incident a 5.5. The kids were locked inside of a safe car with coats on. The weather was 28 degrees,  not -28.

Would I choose to leave my 3yo and 1yo like this? No, I wouldn't.  The thing is no body is perfect and we all have had those moments of a major parenting fail. If an investigation is done and it is found that the parents generally can be trusted to provide a safe environment for their children, then I don't  see why they shouldn't be given another chance to parent. People make mistakes. It'stabout how one learns, grows, and moves on from previous mistakes that build character.

I know that if I had somehow managed to fuck up so bad that cps took my children away I'd be on my hands and knees begging for a second chance.  After carrying and birthing and loving my children ...As a mom I can understand and empathize with parents who for whatever reason have lost access to a child that is normally loved and well taken care of, under normal circumstances. [/quote]

You are incredibly ignorant.  5.5?  Not even close.  First, the temperature that day is reported as 28F.  While the temperature in the car will not change immediately, it will drop pretty quickly.  The car temperature was probably like 68/70F.  In an hour, it probably dropped to the 40's or even 30's.  They were in the restaurant for this wine tasting and it was not over when they were found and arrested.  From experience, those events are like 2.5-3 hours.  In 3 hours, these children could easily have had hypothermia depending on the insulation in the carseats and what they were wearing.  While they may have had coats on, the fastest heat loss in the body is from the head and feet.  If they had regular shoes, socks, and pants on and no hats, the heat loss from the head, legs and feet could easily induce hypothermia in an hour at 28 degrees or somewhat longer in 30-40 degree temps.  3 hours in a slowly chilling car?  Likely.

However, this is about as unconscionable an act as I can see.  These people are millionaires including the mother who is a senior manager at a federal agency.  They have the financial means to hire a sitter.  Even if all of their sitters canceled, they have the means to easily hire someone from White House Nannies and pay the high prices for a last minute emergency sitter.  There is no excuse for negligence of this kind.  Unless there is some bizarre extenuating circumstances, I don't see why they should have anything less than the book thrown at them.[/quote]

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