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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think the discussion of "morality" has gone way off base.  You don't need religion to have moral reason. Why would you?

If a child is running a fever of 102 and vomiting - you know they are sick don't you?  You can quickly discern healthy from unhealthy no matter what religion you are?

In the same manner, you can distinguish healthy from unhealthy actions.  How would the tribe survive if killing the members indiscriminately was okay?  How would the tribe survive if they couldn't trust each other to tell the truth about things like dangerous animals or places? How could the tribe survive if stealing resources from each other was the rule?  It wouldn't survive so you wouldn't be here.  The successful tribes are the ones that evolved successful moral values among themselves.

If in later times it was helpful to codify those values into some tale about stone tablets, well - fine.  History is full of stories told to explain evolutionary events to the uneducated and gullible.[/quote]

Why would you call this "moral" reasoning?  I think that is misleading.  Useful reasoning.  Practical reasoning, sure.  But what is "moral" about any of these reasonings?[/quote]

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