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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]CC sucks monkey ass and anyone who doesn't think so is clearly not trying to help 11 year olds with math while not being allowed to explain about "carrying" and "borrowing"[/quote] Who is telling your 11 year old child she can't use the standard algorithm to add and subtract? That's an explicit 4th grade standard. [quote]CCSS.MATH.CONTENT.4.NBT.B.4 Fluently add and subtract multi-digit whole numbers using the standard algorithm.[/quote] A 5th grade standards is to fluently multiply and divide multi-digit whole numbers using the standard algorithm. So if teachers are telling your child not to use the standard algorithms, that's not on Common Core.[/quote] +1 In MCPS, kids learn several different ways to add multi digit numbers. One way, is using the standard algorithm of carrying. I think DC learned this in 3rd grade. DC is in 4th now, and the kids can use this method when doing math.[/quote] How will they be tested?[/quote] I don't understand your question. Are you asking what standardized test they will be using? In MCPS, it will be PARCC this year. Also, they use the MAP-M test. Are you asking whether they are tested using the standard algorithm? I have not seen the tests, but they are all multiple choice, from what I understand. I would imagine the tests would include using the standard algorithm as well understanding how to deconstruct a number.[/quote] And a student who gets the the standard algorithm correct but does not get the test question that involves deconstructing a number is then deemed not understanding mathematics?[/quote] I don't think the standardized tests work that way: pass or fail just cause you can't do one type of math problem. That's no different to any standardized math test, like the SATs. Either you don't seem to understand how the CC math standards work, or you are just purposely trying to be awkward and nitpick. In 2nd grade, if the kid has a hard time decomposing, then the kid would not meet the CCSS.MATH.CONTENT.2.NBT.B.7 standard "Add and subtract within 1000, using concrete models or drawings and strategies based on place value, properties of operations, and/or the relationship between addition and subtraction; relate the strategy to a written method. Understand that in adding or subtracting three-digit numbers, one adds or subtracts hundreds and hundreds, tens and tens, ones and ones; and sometimes it is necessary to compose or decompose tens or hundreds." But can meet the CCSS.MATH.CONTENT.2.NBT.B.8 standard if the kid can quickly use the algorithm method to add. "Mentally add 10 or 100 to a given number 100-900, and mentally subtract 10 or 100 from a given number 100-900."[/quote]
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