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[b]We've been throwing money at poverty for, what, 60 years. There is still poverty[/b].

How about we house our homeless veterans in military bases, rather than illegals?

Now do you see why there is still poverty?  Because it's about the voting block. [/quote]

We've been throwing money at the military for 60 years. There are still wars.
We've been throwing money at education for 60 years. There are still people who need education. (Children, for example.)
We've been throwing money at road-building for 60 years. There are still transportation problems.
We've been throwing money at policing and incarceration for 60 years. There is still crime.
We've been throwing money at health care for 60 years. There are still illnesses.[/quote]

This is perhaps one of the lamest responses I have seen on DCUM.
Military - we will always NEED military - unless of course, you do not care about the safety of our country.
Education - we will always NEED education - but, I agree, the federal government should get out of this area.  
Road Building - we will always NEED roads - and as technology improves, so do our roads.
Policing and Incarceration - we will always NEED police and places to house criminals.  As much as you would like this world to be perfect, there will always be criminals.
Health care - we will always NEED health care.  And, as people learn more, our medical system advances and health care improves.

But, poverty?  We don’t NEED poverty.  The efforts our government has made at combatting poverty simply has not worked.  Yet, more money is being poured into it year after year, making more and more people dependent on government instead of becoming self-sufficient.

Sorry, your comparison has failed miserably.  [/quote]

We don't need poverty. We do need housing, food, and health care, though. Which is what the government spending on poverty goes for. [/quote]

And, has the poverty as a result of this spending decreased?  No.  That is the point.  What the government is doing to address poverty has done nothing to improve it.  [/quote]

Have wars decreased as a result of this spending? Has the number of people in jail decreased? Has the need for roads decreased? No. Then what are we spending all that money on?[/quote]

Once again, your comparisons are lame.  
If we had it your way, we would have no military, no police or prisons, and no roads.  What a wonderful world that would be.  [/quote]

And if we had it your way, we'd have a lot more people with no housing, food, or health care. That's not such a great world, either.[/quote]

Actually, no, because the money being spent on poverty is only increasing the problem.  Do some research.  The number of people living below the poverty line has increased quite substantially over the past 6 years.  The number of SNAP recipients has grown.  The number of people relying on government programs has grown.  What we are doing is NOT working.  [/quote]

NP. The question about spending money on anything (military, roads, poverty etc) shouldn't be 'did it make the problem better/worse' but 'if we did not put the money into it, would the situation be worse than it is now.' For example, it's just common sense to say that if we did not spend money on upkeep of the roads, they'd be in a worse shape than now, so money spent on roads is money well spent.

I have no idea what the answer is about poverty. I do think having some social net is a good thing. Regardless of whether you think all poor people are 'deserving' or not, even in the most 'it's their own fault' scenario, I don't think anyone deserves to starve or freeze to death just for being lazy. [/quote]

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