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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There was one poster who had some knowledge in the way of scholars and some islamic historical context. I already acknowledged this but also said a little knowledge is dangerous. It can give a person a false sense of security and prevent them from seeking additional knowledge.  Such was the case with that poster. This is why she was was completely befuddled when the other Muslim poster said women had equality in Islam. She did not think about the equality in terms of the value of rights, she thought of equality in strictly linear terms, the way a self taught westerner would think.[/quote]

I wasn't befuddled.  I know exactly what Islam's talking points are with regard to men/women "equality".  I happen to disagree. Nothing about it befuddles me. Yes, I'm thinking of equality the way a Westerner would. You are thinking of them the way a Muslim would. So?

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 She had no idea about sura Ash Shurra and the verse that addressed men AND women on how to resolve (political) matters that required collective opinions. She could not read Arabic so she had no idea the language used in that verse was plural, addressing women too. [/quote]
Most Muslims can't read Arabic, go pick on them.

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She saw women were taking the oath of allegiance for the first time in history without a guardian, but alleged it was discriminatory since men didn't have to. Of course men took this oath regularly before, so it was less noteworthy. [/quote]

That's your theory. All we can say is that there is no Quranic proof they were made to take the same oath.

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Still, it was mentioned men did when the Quran talked about the treaty under the tree. She didn't know about this verse either and she had no idea about the historical context, otherwise she would not have made the accusation that the oath was discriminatory. [/quote]

Men in that verse weren't asked to pledge anything other than loyalty.

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 Then she saw where the Prophet asked about converting womens illegitimate children and alleged it discriminated women because the same questioning did not exist for men. There was no way to identify a man's illegitimate child since fornication and adultery were not uncommon. A man could not be held financially responsible for children without evidence he fathered them. If a woman admitted her children were illegitimate, however, the State would provide for them. [/quote]

You are lying again.  In that verse, women were asked to abstain from these things GOING FORWARD.  There's no reason why men couldn't be asked not to have illegitimate children GOING FORWARD.  There was also no reason they couldn't be asked not to lie or to steal.

[quote=Anonymous]So, its not that we refused to acknowledge her superior understanding of Islam, it is simply that there were some gaps, critical ones, in her understanding that contributed to her misjudgments. [/quote]
There are no gaps or misjudgments.  I simply see things differently because I'm not under obligation to interpret them in a flattering way.  It's a very Muslim thing to say "if you studied more, you would understand", as if it is a given that anyone who sees things differently from you simply haven't studied enough.   Yeah, clearly, if only people would study enough, they'd agree with you.  Anyone who disagrees with you is just...undereducated.  :roll:  :roll: [/quote]

Who is asking you to agree or love Islam? Just be careful in interpreting the Quran if you can't read it. And study Islamic history before making judgments.

If all the men were asked is to pledge their loyalty, they could have fornicated left and right and even in front of the Prophet himself. If your assertion is that these acts were not prohibited for men, they could have done that. Why didn't they fornicate freely then? Because it WAS expressly forbidden for men too.[/quote]

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