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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think you are missing something here. People can not travel to distant locations during dreams and overhear details of a private conversation between other people. People can not identify loved ones who have passed away who they never knew of or met after having a dream. How do you explain these occurrences with NDE then?[/quote]
People can pretty much do anything in a dream.  Where did you ever hear they can't travel to distant locations?  Basically your dreams are only limited by your imagination.

There are many explanations to someone identifying someone they never knew or met.  Although I find it amusing you claim they are loved ones yet they never knew them.  But that's another story.  The most obvious answer is they really do know them but just forgot they did.  This occurs all the time.  You think you know someone but not really sure.  I swear I recognize that person, ....  I know I know that person from somewhere ...  There's lots of stuff in our brain we just lost connections to and cannot bring back into current memory.  It's stored in our long term memory and then some trigger brings it back out.[/quote]

You're not familiar with the nde cases then. Lying or being mistaken might be an explanation for a few, but not every one. If surgeons corroborated details of a private talk from different areas of the hospital, it can not be explained away with dreaming. [/quote]

Do you have evidence that "every one" of reported NDEs has been corroborated by surgeons and others?  I doubt it.[/quote]

I would not ignore 1,000's of actual research subjects, but that's not what that NDE site is.  Anyone can sign in and tell their story.  It's not even a bad study.  It's no study at all.

I want to understand your reasoning. So-- you need the corroborating evidence of a surgeon to confirm patients are not lying or dreaming? Is it the surgeons word you trust or would you accept anyones corroborating evidence? What if the person them self was a surgeon? Mary Neal is an orthopedic surgeon whose NDE validated other patients NDE. She confirmed the other patients in the existence of an afterlife and a God. There are many nurses who report their patients NDE and confirm they overheard details in other rooms. [b]Google nde if you need proof[/b]. These surgeons, nurses, other professionals risk their reputation with such public declarations about the existence of an afterlife and a soul. [/quote]

That's not proof, it's a bunch of stories of NDEs reported by people on the internet.   I could make up a story and add it to the list right now.  Even if there were some way to confirm that people having NDE's were hearing exact conversations of people in other rooms, it doesn't confirm "an afterlife or God"[/quote]

If you discount the testimony of thousands of patients, then you discount the confirmation of doctors and nurses who verify their information, then you ignore NDE'ers who are surgeons or nurses, what data remains to scientifically evaluate? I think the reason all testimonies are discounted is because science lacks the tools to explain it.[/quote][/quote]

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