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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] Lets play this back… Concubinage - you said Islam exclusively endorsed female prisoners of war and that Christianity and other religions did not tolerate concubinage. I proved you wrong with scriptures as proof. The Old Testament frequently spoke of concubinage and regulated it. Compelling conversion - you said if nonMuslims do not convert, Islam mandates they be killed or pay jizya. You said jizya was exploitive. I proved you wrong with Quranic verses. You said jizya translated to mean "subdued" as if it was intended to humiliate the nonMuslims. I explained the real Arabic translation was to "submit," since the jizya was a contract acknowledging or acquiescing to the Islamic State as governing authority. .... It's fair to say that you presented lots of inaccuracies in your effort to vilify Islam. Even when presented with scriptural proofs, you simply shifted, dodged, and moved on to a different subject. And this leads me to why you are so hell bent on revisting the immigration/ converstion issue. You think it's something you can finally prove me wrong on and you are hanging your hat on that topic coming back….how old are you? [/quote] No! Why do you try to rewrite the record like this? Why on earth? Do you really think nobody remembers what happened [i]yesterday[/i]? Do you really think everybody will simply accept your revision/spin of events in which we all participated? Let's call this what it is: you lie. Yes, you [i]claimed[/i] Christianity endorses concubinage. Then multiple posts proved you [i]wrong[/i], by showing how Christianity forbids concubinage. [b]This will not be addressed here, only in the concubinage thread [/b] You [i]claimed[/i] jizya is a sweet deal for non-Muslims. Multiple posters proved you [i]wrong[/i] on that. Some PPs (not me) produced evidence of non-Muslim submission to Muslim overlords, where the non-Muslims agreed not to build new houses of worship et cetera. Muslim sources discussed trashing non-Muslim houses of worship and making non-Muslims ride side-saddle. Another post compared the 2-3 tax on Muslims to the wide latitude Muslims have for taxing non-Muslims, and how this often ranged from 20-30% and went as high as 80%. You never even addressed the polytheists, so don't pretend you did. [b]You can't use what people do or what Muslim countries do as clear evidence of what Islam prescribes. It's simply illogical because people are not infallible. But it's the reasoning you rely on over and over again.[/b] I haven't posted on freeing Muslim concubines, and I need to do other things, so I'll let that other PP repeat everything she's already said to you.... I wasn't the PP asking about immigrants, although I bet I know why she brought it up. That digression shows your fundamental dishonesty. For pages you argued the indefensible, that 25,000 is larger than 100,000. [/quote] [b]This will be addressed at a future time, not on this thread though. This thread is about compelling conversions.[/b][/quote]
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