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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yeah, I've seen you make this rant in multiple threads now. You are saying it here, to criticize Murch parents for focusing on definitions of proximity, and you were also in the recent Bancroft/Shepherd thread, where you criticized those parents for focusing on diversity. [/quote]
No, I'm pretty sure this is the first time I've offered this rant.  Maybe you're confusing me with someone else, or maybe you're extrapolating something else I wrote.  Also, my point must've been unclear to you -- I'm not criticizing Murch parents, proximity supporters, or parents who support diversity.  I'm criticizing hypocrites.

[quote]Even if you truly have no interest in this, you would be more credible if you disclosed your IB school. Keep in mind, most of your posts are about questioning other people's motives and calling other people out for their hypocrisy, so with that in mind, you may want to walk your talk and disclose your own potential interests.[/quote]
I'm not naming the schools my children attend.  I am not anywhere close to Ward 3 or upper NW.  The schools my kids attend are wholly unaffected by these discussions. I get that you want to find some hook to claim I'm biased, so you can challenge my credibility.  But I'm simply not.

[quote]Also, you seem to lack experience and maturity in policy-making. This is a policy discussion, first and foremost. There will be self-interest in this. But because we live in a rules-based democracy, for the most part, success in policy means making persuasive arguments on the basis of agreed-upon principles. If there is a broadly accepted principle that diversity is good in education, or that students should not have to walk more than a certain distance to ES, whatever it is, then it is perfectly acceptable to make arguments appealing to those principles, provided you disclose your own self-interest. [/quote]
Your insults are unproductive.  I fully support the need for objective principles guiding public policy decisions.  And I fully support diversity as a goal for society generally, and schools specifically. What I challenge is people hiding their interests-based arguments under a false cloak of diversity.  If you are a Shepherd Park parent who wants to argue that your child should be added to the Wilson zone because you simply want access to Wilson, that's fine.  And if you're a parent who wants to support diversity in schools, that's fine too.  But don't say you should maintain access because of diversity, when what you're really thinking about is just maintaining access.

I don't know you, and (no matter what you may think) you don't know me, so I cannot tell whether your diversity-based arguments are sincere or not.  But I do know I've seen some arguments on these issues that sure don't seem sincere.  And when that happens, it's not only frustrating because of the hypocrisy, but also offensive because of its misuse of the important principle of diversity.[/quote]

If we all followed your rules then no-one would be able to express an opinion on anything ever. We each always have an interest, however indirect.

You remind me of people who complain when a business owner argues that lower capital gains taxes spur economic growth for all. You get distracted pointing out the business owner's self-interest. The relevant question is actually whether or not lower capital gains taxes spur economic growth for all. That's the policy question to be determined. The business owner's interest can simply be assumed, once he discloses to us his status as a business owner with accrued capital gains.

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