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But I think this is exactly what OP was questioning.  Through regular attrition, YY is likely to lose a handful of students in 3,4,5 grade.  If a student can successfully test in at thost grade levels, then who exactly is being denied?  They aren't taking a lottery spot from someone because there is NO Lottery spot to be taken at those grade levels.  Its a waste of resources.   They have the facility, resources and capacity to take mandarin ready student in third grade, and they have the space then its a total waste to leave the seat empty.  And to the poster who said Charters are set up to first and foremost to serve the kids with the most needs...are you serious about that? By and large, Charters become self selecting by the most engaged and concerned families who also have the ability to 1) transport their kid across town 2) visit schools and ask questions 3) learn about the lottery etc...all those kinds of parents would likely have kids who would be successful anywhere.   Based on your reasoning then parents who live in Ward 3 shouldnt be allowed in charters because they don't have needs.[/quote]

Find where anyone said charters "first and foremost are set up to serve the kids with the most needs".  All I said is that they were founded and funded on the presumption that they were to offer quality education options for students that otherwise had the worst options.  Meaning, they were never set up to have income-based admission or to have needs assessments to be a certain amount UNDER-grade level, but at the same time there was and is a built in protection against effectively funding an alternative where, just like neighborhood preference in JKLMM schools, you have to be able to afford to get in.  If there is supposed to be an equal, random chance for someone from Ward 8 to go to Yu Ying, allowing language proficiency to be the preference determinator for PS through 2nd grade new admissions spots, which are getting fewer and fewer every year, you would be cutting off access to the very students that the protection was set up to allow access for (when they win the lottery).

Where did anyone in this thread say that "charters were set up to first and foremost serve the kids with the most needs?"[/quote]

"Equal, random chance to attend" are the words of someone who clearly doesn't understand the whole point of "CHARTER" in the term "CHARTER SCHOOL".  Charter schools themselves aren't equal and random.  Their charters are for specific purposes, and that's all spelled out in the charter.  Why pursue an "equal, random chance" to send a kid to St. Collettas when they have no disability?  That makes no sense.  Why "equal, random chance" to send a kid to Carlos Rosario when it's intended for adult learners.  It makes no sense, just as it makes no sense to send your kid to Yu Ying if you have no interest in Chinese language and culture.  Those things are spelled out in the charter.  It makes zero sense to send kids off to random schools without any understanding of what the mission and charter of those schools is.[/quote]

Riiiight... because, who exactly is it that's talking about the public school system deciding which kids will go to which schools??  Seriously, who are you responding to, because no one is talking abotu that.  We are only talking about any given family's ability to have equal access to the schools they WANT, not some random situation where kids where despite what a family wants, kids are being sent to a Chinese immersion school when they really wanted Spanish Montessori.  You are seriously hearing and responding to what you want to hear, not what is being said, and this is the 2nd time.

PARENTS choose which schools they will apply to for their kids.  We all know there is more demand than supply for the most popular schools, but at the end of the day, what the CHARTERS are supposed to insure is that ANY DC PARENT who wants to try to get their kid in, has an EQUAL CHANCE of getting their kid in.  NO ONE is talking about sending kids whose families have no interest in Chinese to Yu Ying.

Which brings us back to the original question of access... and at this point, I realize that you are just AGAINST maintaining a system that prioritizes access over testing in, even with all the good reasons (including the increased value of more native speakers and attrition at higher grades) for wanting testing in.  That's fine, that's your right to value that over equal shots at the few slots for ALL families, including those who can't afford Mandarin childcare from day 1.  But for heavens sake just say you're against it.  All this cloaking it in random shit that no one is even saying is frustrating.  And with that, you'll be glad to know I'm bowing out of this discussion.  If you don't understand my position and why by now, no number of random, surrealist pulling-examples-out-of-your-___ exchanges will make this an actual discussion of access.

If you had a real counter to my main point, you'd have given it by now, so just say you don't really care about poor kids as much as you care about allowing testing in and be done with it.  Adios Yu Ying thread, it's been... interesting.
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