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You obviously forgot the 3rd DC: the one full of people who think that the only way to be "dynamic, innovative, progressive and cosmopolitan" is to have policies, plans and structures that serve your middle and upper classes and push lower classes out.  Because that is pretty much what you're saying about the fact that the public charter school board does not allow charters to test in at any grade[b] because it doesn't want to cut out access to families who can't afford a private Mandarin tutor, or Spanish summer camp, or private Montessori schools until they can nab a spot at a public one.[/b][/quote]

So your answer is to cut out access to everyone at the expense of additional resources to the school, which affects all grade levels, including the lower grades that are serving the underprivileged children?

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Deal with it entitled people: the very people preventing a test in option are the "stagnant, old-school, retrograde" people who were part of creating the charter schools that you so desperately want entry to now.  Trying to keep the door even faintly open for lower SES families and families who don't have geographic advantages of being IB for great DCPS schools is NOT stagnant, and while I do hope there will some day be a way to figure out increasing applications and interest from families who already speak Mandarin or French or whatever, so that the pool of applicants includes more native speakers,[b] I defend to the end the randomness of admission and the fact that kids who herwise wouldn't have a shot in a million years at speaking Mandarin and all the doors that may open to that child, that that child has a shot - a loooooong shot (like everyone else's long shot), but a shot nonetheless, at going to a school like Yu Ying[/b].[/quote]

But you can defend that to the end and still admit that there's some point where it makes no sense to put someone with no mandarin experience in a classroom otherwise full of mandarin speakers, and actually disserves that person by setting them up to fail. You can defend randomness in early-grade admission while admitting that the spot could be filled by someone who does speak Mandarin, whether because they just moved here from another state or country, or because they speak Mandarin at home, or because they have tutors (though this last seems the least likely possibility), and that the school is better poised for success for all grade levels if its enrollment is not artificially limited.

To defend a policy on principle when applied to situations where it does not serve any of the values behind the policy is asinine.[/quote]

???  I'm not defending on principle, I'm defending based on how YY actually works now.  What do you mean "admit that it makes no sense to put someone with no Mandarin experience in a class full of Mandarin speakers"?  YY cuts off new admissions at 2nd grade, is moving towards doing it at 1st grade (or maybe now they already do?) and has support structures in place for catching new-to-Mandarin students up - exactly to make sure that students do not start so far behind they can't catch up.  The whole reason YY fought to cut off new admissions earlier twas to avoid the scenario where new students are so far behind, it is a set up to fail.  You are calling something "artificially limited", when it's far from "artificial" - YY is a school set up to educate urband students in Mandarin and English.  Why is a 1st or 2nd grade cut off, and supports for the new-to-Mandarin 1st or 2nd grader, "artificial" in your eyes??  It's the whole premise of the school!  Under YY's current admissions policy, or DCI's where the assumption is that new students will come in with no foreign language proficiency, where would it happen that as a regular occurrence students would enter into a classroom of "Mandarin speakers" and be so far behind they can't catch up?  [/quote]

But I think this is exactly what OP was questioning.  Through regular attrition, YY is likely to lose a handful of students in 3,4,5 grade.  If a student can successfully test in at thost grade levels, then who exactly is being denied?  They aren't taking a lottery spot from someone because there is NO Lottery spot to be taken at those grade levels.  Its a waste of resources.   They have the facility, resources and capacity to take mandarin ready student in third grade, and they have the space then its a total waste to leave the seat empty.  And to the poster who said Charters are set up to first and foremost to serve the kids with the most needs...are you serious about that? By and large, Charters become self selecting by the most engaged and concerned families who also have the ability to 1) transport their kid across town 2) visit schools and ask questions 3) learn about the lottery etc...all those kinds of parents would likely have kids who would be successful anywhere.   Based on your reasoning then parents who live in Ward 3 shouldnt be allowed in charters because they don't have needs.[/quote]

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