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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm a guy. I'm circ'd. I wouldn't have it any other way.

Also, if you choose not to have the procedure done on your son, [b]prepare for the day the other kids make fun of him in the locker room at school[/b]. I remember telling this to a mom, and she was stunned that adolescent boys would compare their genitals and make fun of each other. I told her she clearly had never spent much time around adolescent boys.

I take the view that it's up to the parent. Yes, there are health benefits. And yes, there are cultural biases. But the absolute vitriol with which people talk on here -- YOUR KID IS A SERIAL RAPIST! YOU SHOULD GO TO PRISON! -- is just, well, disappointing. [/quote]

Sadly, it is probably true that many parents think like that. However, since fewer and fewer parents are circumcising, this problem, if it exists, is going to go away.

FWIW, my husband, who is American but intact, was never made fun of in the locker room.
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DH is intact and he says about half of the guys he went to high school with were. No one made fun of anyone for it.

Then again, we're educated and from the northeast, and circumcision is on the decline amongst people like us. Probably circumcised boys will be the ones getting pointed out as unusual in 15 years.[/quote]

I'm educated and also from the northeast and my sons are circumcised. I think a fair assessment of the situation would conclude that there are valid reasons/arguments on both sides and medical reports which can be used to validate each point of view.[/quote]

Also well-educated and also from the northeast and plus one for circumcision. I'm still laughing at the sweeping notion that "educated and from the northeast" means that you don't circumcise. Someone earlier quoted a stat that suggests that the majority of male babies born in U.S. hospitals TODAY (not 20 years ago, TODAY) are still circumcised. Where is this disappearing phenomenon of which you speak? I suppose vaccinations are also on the decline because there are some crazy, uneducated parents out there who believe that vaccines are the equivalent of giving your kid Hostess twinkies (I believe this is an actual quote from that thread), but that doesn't speak to the intelligence or "rightness" of it. I'm not suggesting that people who don't circumcise are idiots; I'm simply saying that you all are WAY overstating your case and the support which your "army" has in the U.S. By the way, since all of us live here, I don't really care what they do in Australia.[/quote]

Educated or not, I would bet that you are not educated about circumcision.  Can you name (without googling) the various parts of the foreskin, as well as five functions of it?  Can you name five complications of circumcision, along with about how often those things happen?  People who have spent time researching elective, amputative, surgery on their newborn child's genitals should at least have a proper understanding of what it is they are planning to remove and what the real risks of doing so are.  And yes, I would label those who don't ask these types of questions as "idiots" regardless of what type o fancy education they've gotten.[/quote]

learn to read moron

amputation  - a condition of disability resulting from the loss of one or more limbs.

Amputation is reserved for describing the removal of a (meaningful section of) limb or organ, such as a digit, arm, ear, etc. The small flap of foreskin is not considered to be within that realm.

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I think this is precisely the heart of the matter.  Parents who choose to have their sons foreskins amputated the day after birth have not done any real research.  They have no idea what it is they are slicing off.  They (incorrectly) believe that it is akin to a hangnail; useless.

Those of us who look beyond the basics (asking our friends and doctor, who is probably cut himself) learn that there is absolutely value and purpose to the foreskin.  After that, it's pretty difficult to thoughtlessly take away or maim our sons functioning, healthy penis.

I ask you:  why the foreskin?  Why do you believe it is SO useless or SO dangerous that it needs removal, upon birth, without consent of the boy?  Especially when compated to many ither body parts that are at much greater risk of developing severe, life threatening diseases over the course of the mans life.  For example, Men are at a significantly higher risk of developing breast cancer in their lives than any type of foreskin problem.  Why aren't we advocating male breast buds at birth.  We could easily those out at birth, yet the mere thought of doing so would be pretty horrific and probably send people to jail.[/quote]

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