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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]They are all far richer than we are, they have free education childcare elder care and healthcare. 
Whoever thinks we are better off is insane. [/quote]

How are they far richer than we all are? Over and over on this thread, people have posted median and average salaries that show you're incorrect.

Education is free in USA. We also have medicaid if you are poor. [/quote]

FTFY.  [b]Some[/b] education is free in the USA.   Private universities charge $90k a year for college in the USA compared to having tertiary education at a minimal cost in most of Europe.  And you should try talking to a parent of a child under the age of 5 paying 30k a year for daycare so they can work, which would be free through state sponsored providers in most of Europe.[/quote]

OK you're talking about specialty education. K-12 are free in the US. Daycare is 90% babysitting and not education. (And yes, I pay 25k a year for my kids each in daycare.)

Tertiary education is a minimum cost in the US as well. Have you looked at community college costs?! They're so reasonable. For 2025-2026, tuition at Northern Virginia Community College (NOVA) is approximately $190 per credit hour for in-state residents. $190 a credit hour in a high cost of living area is a minimum cost in my mind.[/quote]

What's your source that daycare is 90% babysitting and not education?  Are you sending your kids to a daycare where you learning is mandated not to occur?[/quote]

So all of Europe has free daycare? From 12 weeks on? And does it go until 6pm? (This is a rhetorical question. I know the answer)

Many states do have free Pre-K. Some even have free Pre-K 3 and Pre-K 4.[/quote]

NP-The French school week is super annoying for working parents, with Wednesdays off and also so many breaks. My sil (not wealthy at all) had a lady who took care of my nephew that day and picked him up at school (which also ends before work ends). It's not like everything is perfect. And yes, the US does have free Pre-K. It was great for both my kids. And before that there was a very low cost little 2s program offered by my city every am between 8 and 12. We definitely need more of these programs so everyone can benefit.[/quote]

The American school week and calendar year are super convenient and never annoying… said no working parent ever…[/quote]

I think the point is that Europe isn’t as great as it’s actually presented online.

My friend in the Netherlands just this year had aftercare provided by her child’s school. She’s the mom and expected to simply pick up her kid at 2 PM or whatever time. My elementary school in 1995 had aftercare for working parents!

I think people would shocked to be learn about how in many ways it’s not always family friendly in Europe. My opinion is that women are pushed into a second tier worker status and expected to stay home a long time to watch children and then work limited hours. [/quote]

There is hard data about how much rich European countries contribute for childcare.  It's orders of magnitude higher than in the US.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/06/upshot/child-care-biden.html
How Other Nations Pay for Child Care. The U.S. Is an Outlier.
Rich countries contribute an average of $14,000 per year for a toddler’s care, compared with $500 in the U.S.
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well is it even comparible? since its subsidized does the 14k get you that much or is it over priced because of the govt subisidy?

I'd rather be in america without uniersal health care if that meant i can chose different plans and make it ahead, i have never had issues w/ my health issurance even when my dad had cancer it was fine but compariing how much we paid a month to what the quality the euopren govt givces i 'll take my private insurance much better.[/quote]

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