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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't get the issue. There are kids at all colleges who need remedial help - even the elite ones. If they're getting the help they need, then what is the problem? Oh, that they took spots from kids who had good math instruction in high school? [/quote]

Because elite college admissions should go to qualified students otherwise these college aren’t elite anymore.[/quote]

Who ever said UCSD was elite? It’s the third best public school in its state.[/quote]

None of which are elite for undergraduate education. There are no elite public schools in any state because they aren't supposed to be elite. They are supposed to train students of their states for jobs like engineering, accounting, teaching, and health sciences. Anyone who believes that there aren't similar students in every state flagship is kidding themselves.[/quote]
+1, this “elite” nonsense id do strange and a new (last 30 years or so) issue. Parents keep on wanting state schools to operate like Harvard- Harvard is Harvard and has its own issues with what  parents consider a rigorous elite education.

State education is that: education for the representative students of a state. While there’s many grandiose ways state schools describe themselves, they’ve always been about broad opportunity and access in conjunction with rigorous, fair academics. You’re not gonna see grade inflation to the same extent at a state school, because they’re designed to have differentiation baked into the system. The issue here isn’t the “eliteness” of the UC system, but the changing standards of the California primary education system.[/quote]

I think the key missing link is that state colleges and universities don’t take “less elite” students as a social justice mission (only) - they take students of all stripes because the goal is to create educated professionals that benefit the state - likely more than the IB bros at Princeton. You know - nurses, teachers, traffic engineers, etc. [/quote]

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