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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Georgetown requires high SAT scores. Michigan does not. The quality of the student body demonstrably reflects that.[/quote]
And yet Michigan enrolls many more high-scoring students. So either Georgetown rejects high-scoring students in favor of lower scoring ones, or high-scoring students strongly prefer Michigan (or both).[/quote]

Michigan is test-optional. 100% of the student body has to submit scores at Georgetown.

Geez. People still try to compare test optional (where only ppl with high scores submit and a good portion are so low they can’t submit) with test required schools.[/quote]

No, I’m comparing numbers of students.

Georgetown has 1,239 FTFY students reporting SAT scores, with a 75th percentile score of 1530. That’s 310 students scoring 1530+

Michigan has 4,503 FTFY students reporting SAT scores, with a 75th percentile score of 1530. That’s 1,126 students scoring 1530+

1,126 is more than 3.5 times 310. As I said: “Michigan enrolls a lot more high-scoring students.”[/quote]

In other words, 70% of Michigan's students scored below 1370 on the SAT. That is Michigan's 25% SAT score.  There are 8,100 students. Only 55% submitted an SAT score. So 6,000 students out of 8,000 are low scoring sub-1370.

Not the flex you think it is, lol.[/quote]

lol no you can’t just assume that. The decision to submit is messy, you don’t know ex ante where the 25th percentile is going to be for your year and anyone below the previous year’s reported median is a possible candidate to not submit.[/quote]

We know for a fact that 25% of those freshman who enrolled in Michigan and submitted SATs (only 55%) scored below 1370.  The general rule of thumb is not to submit an SAT if it is below the 25%.  So 45% of students didn't submit an SAT score.  It doesn't take a genius to infer that those who didn't submit an SAT score did so because they had a bad SAT score, or at least one slightly above, at, or below the 1370 figure.   You can quibble at the margins, but it is a very safe assumption to make that well OVER half of all Michigan freshman couldn't score above 1370 on the SAT, and much closer to 70%.

SO 4,000-6,000 freshman out of 8,000 have a comparatively low SAT score.  That makes up the bulk of the student body.  You can pick and very large university and find some high scorers.  Arizona State has them,  Alabama has them.  However, the general quality of the student body is what is.

Michigan's freshman class is huge, more than 8,100 students.  While a 1370 is not a bad score it obviously isn't in the same ballpark as the scores at the top selective privates, like Georgetown.  To pretend otherwise just makes you look foolish.[/quote]

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