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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]-^ and then these schools only have the high scores in their averages unlike test required schools where it was based on 100%.  It’s a scam. [/quote]

Not exactly sure why Vandy remains test optional today, but pre-Covid, Vanderbilt had among the highest average test scores in the country. Vandy's test scores were higher than Stanford's. My oldest was applying to college during that Covid year so we were well aware you needed the highest scores to even think about applying to Vandy.

As for today, those that submit are all high scores. I'd be very surprised if those that choose not to submit scores are notably all that different. I don't think the difference between a 1470 or a 1570 is all that great. But if you have the option of not submitting a 1470 and still be considered because you excel everywhere else, why is that a bad thing? All these students have the grades and AP scores. By not fixating on that 1570 score means you also get the 1470 students that have outstanding ECs.

The other thing I'd be mindful of is that Vandy is not a large school. Undergrad is about 7000 students. But they are an SEC school. And they have clearly made a decision to compete for national championships in football, basketball - both men and women - and baseball. This isn't fencing or squash at Princeton. Or a handful of students at Duke basketball. Vanderbilt is serious about their D1 sports. And that can impact SAT/ACT averages. So they prefer their model of being TO. Just speculating. But it clearly works for them.        [/quote]

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