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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Wake has lots of rich kids. W&M prob less so.[/quote]
Wake has better ROI and can compete outside of regional placement for jobs.  It will get closer to top 25 in a few years. [/quote]
Wak is nowhere near being a top 25
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Dp, but why this again.  [b]When us news decides to eliminate the dei factors it’s used for the last year or two[/b], Wake will likely be back on the T30, just as it was for over 25 straight years.
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But we all know they won't, and since Wake isn't really looking to grow research they'll continue to be punished[/quote]

Not sure why you would say Wake is no looking to grow research, they just built a large medical research facility and also added a second campus for their Medical School.[/quote]

They aren't interested in being r1 as far as i can tell - no public strategy of that[/quote]

R1 just means a certain level of funding has been received.  William and Mary does have more research funding at the undergraduate level, but that is in arts and sciences, education, and Marine sciences.

Wake medical school alone  has almost four times as much research funding as William and Mary as a whole. That research is accessible to undergraduates.  In fact, my own kid easily found a position for this summer.

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And it doesn't count for the rankings so like I said that's the issue Wake has [/quote]

All that counts for research in the U.S. News rankings  is the number of citations in journals.  Schools like Wake and Willam and Mary are never going to match the number of research faculty numbers of the research powerhouses and therefore won’t benefit from this criteria.

William and Mary has $81 million in research funding, Wake has over $350 million, including the medical school.  [b]Vanderbilt, which I assume is what you mean by a mid tier private[/b], has over  $ 1 billion, with a little less than half representing the undergraduate portion.[/quote]
Vanderbilt is 24 in the nation in research spending. What a terrible assumption. [/quote]

Your arguments make no sense.  If your argument is that William and Mary is going to move up the rankings based on research (even though less than 5 percent of the ranking criteria), Vandy is exactly the type of school you would need to pass to move up rapidly.  Of course, your entire argument is fatally flawed because federal funding for research has been dramatically cut by Trump and even the powerhouses are facing declines in researching funding support.

Moving on . . .
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My arguments "make no sense" because you've already decided I've wrong and have made no effort to actually engage with any of what I said.

"even though less than 5 percent of the ranking criteria"
Already mentioned that this also indirectly impacts the peer reputation score which you ignored because that's 20% of the criteria.

For whatever reason W&M wasn't screwed over by the funding cuts 🤷‍♂️ they hit 110 mil in expenditures last year per some end of year email they sent out to everyone.  But if everyone is getting screwed over it's still about positioning yourself higher on that list and getting people at other universities to have a higher reputation of you.  [/quote]

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