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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Wake has lots of rich kids. W&M prob less so.[/quote]
Wake has better ROI and can compete outside of regional placement for jobs.  It will get closer to top 25 in a few years. [/quote]
Wak is nowhere near being a top 25
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Dp, but why this again.  [b]When us news decides to eliminate the dei factors it’s used for the last year or two[/b], Wake will likely be back on the T30, just as it was for over 25 straight years.
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But we all know they won't, and since Wake isn't really looking to grow research they'll continue to be punished[/quote]

So will William and Mary, the schools excel based on class size and having full professors teachers.  The research factors are less than 5 percent of score and focus only on overall number of citations.  Schools the size of Wake or William and Mary simply can’t compete with the the large flagships on this criteria, they don’t have the same raw numbers of faculty.

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W&M is certainly trying to grow research now that it's R1. Will obviously never be able to compete with flagships but it can probably catch up to bigger research privates [/quote]

Doubtful, it doesn’t even have a medical school. [/quote]

There are plenty of bigger research schools without a med school. You can still do health related research without one - I imagine the new bioengineering program they're adding will ramp up with that pretty quickly.[/quote]

My student is premed.  She could go to Wake, where she can take classes with medical schools faculty, works in labs with her professors at a school that has well over $300 million in biomedical funding, and shadow her professors at Wake Med.

Or she could go to William and Mary, which has no medical school and a total of $81 million in research funding, nearly all of which is not biomedical.
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Thank you for this wonderful straw man argument that had absolutely nothing to do with the previous comment [/quote]

Not remotely a straw man.  It just shows how superficial your understanding of research is.   William and Mary being R1 had very little value to my family when their total amount of research is still small and there is little in the area of interest to my student.  If my kid was interested in marine science or education, William and Mary would be a better choice for them given its research strength in those area.  For a premed kid, Wake offers significantly better research opportunities in their area of interest.  Unlike total number of citations in scientific journals, these are inquiries families should be considering because they will have a  direct impact on their kid’s academic experience.[/quote]

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