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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]Kids from TJ get into the real world and dominate pretty much regardless of where they go to undergrad. 
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The differences in opportunities as far as course availability, facilities and equipment, and student groups is just so incredibly stark when compared to even the best base schools.

So yeah, it's possible that it might be a little harder to get into the most elite colleges from TJ... but as the years and decades have gone by, the value add from those schools has been depressed significantly AND you're increasing your chances of admission by a relatively small amount - it's by no means a guarantee. [/quote]

This is ridiculous. Let me guess: you're sending out annual surveys that are answered by professors and employers from senior year of HS onward? No, this is what you're telling yourself. The answer is that very bright kids generally do well no matter where they are.

That's like a base HS kid who goes to an ivy league looking at the TJ kid going to VCU and saying "kids in the top of their HSs who get into the ivies dominate because their colleges are far superior to lower ranked colleges. We have more money from the endowment pouring in!!" The answer is that bright kids are bright and do well no matter where they are, and that includes middle school to base HS OR TJ and then base HS OR TJ on to x college.

[b]- We turned TJ down for base HS and my kid is heading to an ivy next year. It is NOT "a little" harder to getting into elite schools from TJ. It's a lot harder. We strategically picked our local HS.[/b][/quote]

This is smart. [/quote]

Thanks…hard decision four years ago - but we felt it was the right one for us then and we are very glad we did it. [/quote]

No offense but I don't buy that it is a LOT harder to get into elite schools from TJ.

None of the kids I know that got into HYPSM from Langley would have had much trouble at TJ.
Most of the handw5ringing these days is the gross underperformance of the kids that are getting in under the new admissions process that would not have gotten in under the prior admissions process.
Aside from that there is a fairly significant effect for kids that might have gotten into UVA from their base school that will not get in from TJ.

TJ sends almost as many kids to HYPSM as the rest of FCPS combined.[/quote]

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D[b]o you even have a current 11th-12th grade TJ student or a TJ grad from ‘25? [/quote]
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I'd love the answer to this...[/quote]

I have a TJ grad, not '25.[/quote]

Year? If you don't have current information, your input needs to be viewed through that lens. College admissions are not what they were even 4 years ago. [/quote]

DP. I hate to be pedantic about this but strategizing a decision about TJ around college admissions is not a great value proposition. The delta between what you're getting at TJ vs. base school in FCPS is so much greater than the delta between typical TJ destinations and HYPSM - assuming you even get in.

- access to exceptional club opportunities *during the school day*
- access to extremely advanced STEM classes
- access to equipment and facilities that exceed what exists at many universities for first and second year students
- access to a student body that is 100% focused on school
- access to far greater athletic opportunities than are available at most FCPS schools
- access to TJ's insane alumni network

Now, if your kid can't handle it, or if your kid genuinely hates STEM, then yes, it's not the right fit. But to choose not to apply or to decline the offer without even trying it for a year for other reasons... tough to understand that.[/quote]

I didn't see what year your TJ kid graduated in your response to my question asking for the year in which your TJ kid graduated. [/quote]

That's because I'm a different person from the person to whom you responded. But you're probably not going to get an identifying response from someone on an anonymous forum. The reasons why you're wrong don't hinge on someone else's kid's graduation year. They come from your apparent lack of familiarity with the TJ product and its overall value.[/quote]

I was exclusively responding to someone who said: “No offense but I don't buy that it is a LOT harder to get into elite schools from TJ.”

This is the precise reason people post in this forum saying they regret it. Not everyone regrets it and not everyone thinks their kids’ college choices are lesser than they could have been had their kids not attended TJ, but plenty of people feel this way. This includes people IRL who express this regret.

College acceptances have become much maligned re competitive for everyone over the last few years. So only the last few years is relevant to this discrete issue. [/quote]

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