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Furthermore, if all of these are achieved, there will still be some sad situations. Are you gonna be OK with that or should we never deport any noncriminal because it makes people sad?[/quote]

I appreciate that you agreed with me on most of my points. It indicates to me that you do not have an entirely closed mind.

I encourage you to recognize that people are not protesting the detainment of children because "it makes us feel sad".  That really misses the point.

As the judge made clear in his ruling, Liam’s detention was wrong in fundamental ways. It was unconstitutional. It involved an illegal seizure without a valid warrant and a denial of habeas corpus. It was also a human rights violation. Arbitrarily detaining a child and inflicting trauma is never acceptable. And it was morally indefensible, driven by enforcement quotas and an abuse of power rather than justice or public safety.

The judge also pointed out that this detainment wasn't just "sad".  It reflected authoritarian practices the U.S. was founded to reject. The judge explicitly invoked the Declaration of Independence. He drew parallels between this conduct and the abuses committed by a tyrannical government such as swarms of officers harassing people and armed agents acting without civilian oversight.  He also pointed out that we now have standing enforcement forces, operating in peacetime without consent of the citizens.  These actions of unchecked state power are exactly the behaviors American colonists rebelled against in the Revolutionary War.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/26708008-us-district-judge-fred-bierys-opinion-ordering-release-of-5-year-old-liam-arias-and-father

So no, PP, we are not protesting because "we feel sad" although for sure the sad boy and his adormable bunny hat created a great deal of sympathy. So much so, I want to buy each one of my immigrant ESOL students a bunny hat to wear from now on, just in case they get caught up in a raid and need people to protest. You shouldn't need to be cute to gain empathy but I will take moral outrage wherever I can get it. [/quote]

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